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Old 12-19-2012, 11:16 AM  
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Why the Chiefs need Cowher...
No Super Bowl winning coach has ever won the Super Bowl again with a different team. We know this.

We also know the NFL is fixed.

There wouldn't be a bigger story line in the NFL next year than if the Chiefs, who haven't drafted a QB since Todd Blackledge, were to win the Super Bowl, making Cowher, who has been in the broadcast booth, the first coach to win it all with 2 different teams.

Make it happen, Roger!
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:56 PM   #136
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If we're talking retreads, give me Holmgren. Both of these guys had balls when it came to the playoffs. Onside kicks, letting the runner score to keep more clock time, etc.

Hell, if Dick Vermiel had onside-kicked it after every TD in the 'no punt' playoff game, he may still be here.
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Old 12-19-2012, 02:57 PM   #137
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Well it is the Steelers organization.

The Chiefs were consistently in the playoffs with Marty, you want that again or do you want to win a SB?
If Marty started off with a QB like Geno in 1989, we would have won a lot of those playoff games...

QB TRUMPS EVERYTHING.

If we hire Bill and draft Geno...buckle up because it's gonna be one heck of a ride.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:00 PM   #138
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If Marty started off with a QB like Geno in 1989, we would have won a lot of those playoff games...

QB TRUMPS EVERYTHING.

If we hire Bill and draft Geno...buckle up because it's gonna be one heck of a ride.
If Marty had gotten Troy Aikman instead of Derrick Thomas is what you are trying to get at.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:03 PM   #139
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So we don't want Cowher, what about Gruden?
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:05 PM   #140
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If Marty had gotten Troy Aikman instead of Derrick Thomas is what you are trying to get at.
Exactly. Shit, They valued qb so much that they also drafted another qb right after iirc. I'd have to look it up, but I think they took qbs with their top two picks back then.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:06 PM   #141
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Exactly. Shit, They valued qb so much that they also drafted another qb right after iirc. I'd have to look it up, but I think they took qbs with their top two picks back then.
Supplemental draft. Jimmy took Steve Walsh, who was his quarterback at the U.
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If Marty started off with a QB like Geno in 1989, we would have won a lot of those playoff games...

QB TRUMPS EVERYTHING.

If we hire Bill and draft Geno...buckle up because it's gonna be one heck of a ride.
When you put it that way it sounds very appealing, but I am a very long way from being convinced that this team will draft Geno.

I have gone from being the biggest homer this board had ever seen, to being a realist.

Cowher was all over Cassel's nuts not too long ago, when even the most casual observer can tell he just didn't have it. At the same time, all the experts are not on Geno's nuts.

When you put that with the team's actual history (safe picks) call me skeptical of it happening.

But if you guaranteed me that the Chiefs would draft Geno, and Cowher had a long term Viagra prescription, I would settle for that.
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Old 12-19-2012, 03:08 PM   #143
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So we don't want Cowher, what about Gruden?
To quote Bo Pelini, "I don't care."
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To quote Bo Pelini, "I don't care."
I just can't get on board with Gruden, without circling back to wanting Cowher more.


I know this goes against the board bylaws, and call me crazy, but damn it I want the 90's back. I want to be able to watch and enjoy Chiefs football. I don't want the losing in the playoffs heartbreak back, but


I also want the franchise QB. The top flight great QB, who is going to be there for us when we draft first overall.
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I just can't get on board with Gruden, without circling back to wanting Cowher more.


I know this goes against the board bylaws, and call me crazy, but damn it I want the 90's back. I want to be able to watch and enjoy Chiefs football. I don't want the losing in the playoffs heartbreak back, but


I also want the franchise QB. The top flight great QB, who is going to be there for us when we draft first overall.
That is exactly where I was at after the Herm era, prior to the Pioli tenure, wanting the Marty years back.

But now, I am used to expecting and watching a train wreck. Moved on.

If they are going to get me fired up again, it will be because they have a chance to win the whole ****ing thing.
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Hire another Todd Haley
another crazy asshat?

another hot,prodigy coach with no track record?

completely unproven HC candidate?


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**** all your opinions.

I don't want a prospect or hot commodity - WHO CAN WE HIRE THAT HAS PROVEN HE CAN WIN!?!
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That is exactly where I was at after the Herm era, prior to the Pioli tenure, wanting the Marty years back.

But now, I am used to expecting and watching a train wreck. Moved on.

If they are going to get me fired up again, it will be because they have a chance to win the whole ****ing thing.
See, though in the 90's they did have multiple chances to win the whole ****ing thing, they just never pulled it off.


Thats what you have to do. You have to continually put yourself in that position. We know you need a franchise QB and a great Coach, but that isn't enough. It's not gonna be an automatic thing.

The 90's with a franchise QB would have been really really good.

Thats what I want.

The 90's with a franchise QB. One of those are likely gonna be available when we draft this year.
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another crazy asshat?

another hot,prodigy coach with no track record?

completely unproven HC candidate?


In a heartbeat. I am starting to think of recycled coaches, similar to recycled QBs.

Do not want!

If Pioli hadn't driven Haley clear over the edge, we would probably have our coach right now.
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Just look what Bill was able to accomplish with Neil Odonnel and Kordell Stewart and then watch some Geno Smith youtubes.

Wanna talk about installing a winning culture...
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