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Old 05-10-2014, 01:39 PM  
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Aaron Murray Best Qb Prospect According to this!

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/nfl...-means-nothing By far best qb prospect coming out of this years draft

This thing is pretty dang accurate http://www.footballoutsiders.com/nfl...-forecast-2012

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...2014-nfl-draft






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Old 05-10-2014, 08:26 PM   #106
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Point proven, you don't have to be athletic or a good scrambler to win have your QBOTF


Seriously, that's just flat dumb. I don't know how else to say it and I defended you through all the ban talk and all of that.

I respect your opinions but I don't know how else to put it to you - Big Ben is a ****ing mountain in the pocket that nobody can bring down on first contact. Peyton Manning has a once-every-25-years tool set.

Aaron Murray has NOTHING in common with either one of them. At all.
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:27 PM   #107
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Seriously, that's just flat dumb. I don't know how else to say it and I defended you through all the ban talk and all of that.

I respect your opinions but I don't know how else to put it to you - Big Ben is a ****ing mountain in the pocket that nobody can bring down on first contact. Peyton Manning has a once-every-25-years tool set.

Aaron Murray has NOTHING in common with either one of them. At all.
Let me queue up one of your responses.

"He's a Quarterback"

Boom.
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:28 PM   #108
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NFL.com also says the Chiefs were draft losers, and the Raiders draft winners. Food for though, they also have Michael Sam as their headline with "history in the making". So much for validation.
So I guess the fact that I provided 3 other links in about 2 minutes counts for nothing? Seriously, I stated my opinion and then immediately backed it up with links. You're not fooling anybody.

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I think you've gone full reerun with all this talk that Murray isn't athletic enough or have a good enough arm to play in the WCO.


What?

Where did I EVER say he wasn't good enough to play in the WCO? You don't even know what you're arguing against.

I said he's not good enough to BEAT OUT ALEX SMITH. And he isn't. He'll make a nice backup.

In the WCO.
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:28 PM   #109
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I love all the 'inaccurate' talk when the guys career completion percentage is something like 67%.
Who said he was inaccurate?
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:32 PM   #110
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So I guess the fact that I provided 3 other links in about 2 minutes counts for nothing? Seriously, I stated my opinion and then immediately backed it up with links. You're not fooling anybody.





What?

Where did I EVER say he wasn't good enough to play in the WCO? You don't even know what you're arguing against.

I said he's not good enough to BEAT OUT ALEX SMITH. And he isn't. He'll make a nice backup.

In the WCO.
THEN WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT?
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:33 PM   #111
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Seriously, that's just flat dumb. I don't know how else to say it and I defended you through all the ban talk and all of that.

I respect your opinions but I don't know how else to put it to you - Big Ben is a ****ing mountain in the pocket that nobody can bring down on first contact. Peyton Manning has a once-every-25-years tool set.

Aaron Murray has NOTHING in common with either one of them. At all.
So you can read the future? He probably can't take a hit like Ben, but you never know if he can develop the skill set as Ben or Manning. There's always a chance. Never know bro.
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:35 PM   #112
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you're in the war room; you HAVE to choose between the two players below. who do you pick

Murray
McCarron
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:35 PM   #113
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THEN WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU COMPLAINING ABOUT?
I'm not complaining about anything.

Just because you can't handle the fact that I'm not high as ****ing kite because we drafted a QB in the 5th round doesn't mean I'm complaining.
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:36 PM   #114
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you're in the war room; you HAVE to choose between the two players below. who do you pick

Murray
McCarron
I think the offer many of the same things. They're weaknesses offset each other a bit too.

I'd probably go with Murray because I do think he has more upside.
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you're in the war room; you HAVE to choose between the two players below. who do you pick

Murray
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Murray.

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I'm not complaining about anything.

Just because you can't handle the fact that I'm not high as ****ing kite because we drafted a QB in the 5th round doesn't mean I'm complaining.
Sure sounds like you've been trying to shit all over the pick for the last hour or two.
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:38 PM   #116
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So you can read the future? He probably can't take a hit like Ben, but you never know if he can develop the skill set as Ben or Manning. There's always a chance. Never know bro.
You absolutely despise Alex Smith. No offense, but this whole conversation from you just sounds like wishful thinking.

I get it. f I were in your place, like I was a year ago at this time, I would be saying the same things as you. I would cling to any chance, no matter how small, that Alex Smith was on his way out.

But that ship sailed a long time ago. Alex Smith is the starting QB for the KC Chiefs. It is what it is.
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:41 PM   #117
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Sure sounds like you've been trying to shit all over the pick for the last hour or two.
That's because you're completely looking at the entire conversation through rose colored glasses.

Calm down a bit and look at the title of this thread.

Do you REALLY think Aaron Murray is the best QB prospect in this draft?

You've got to understand that being realistic about Aaron Murray isn't the same as being DOWN on the pick.

I like the pick. At the very least, it gives us a shot at getting rid of Daniel's AWFUL AWFUL contract. At best, I think Murray gives us a legitimate potential upgrade at the backup spot over Daniel as well.

I'm just not going to get all giddy about the pick as if it makes this whole draft an A or something. It's a good pick. I like the first 2 picks A LOT more, I think they have a lot more long-term potential impact as starters than Murray does.
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:44 PM   #118
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I'm glad we drafted a quarterback but I hope they don't just hang their hat on him and not look early in the draft next year. Doubtful he gets any playing time behind Chase Daniel if Alex Smith goes down this year.
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:45 PM   #119
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That's because you're completely looking at the entire conversation through rose colored glasses.

Calm down a bit and look at the title of this thread.

Do you REALLY think Aaron Murray is the best QB prospect in this draft?

You've got to understand that being realistic about Aaron Murray isn't the same as being DOWN on the pick.

I like the pick. At the very least, it gives us a shot at getting rid of Daniel's AWFUL AWFUL contract. At best, I think Murray gives us a legitimate potential upgrade at the backup spot over Daniel as well.

I'm just not going to get all giddy about the pick as if it makes this whole draft an A or something. It's a good pick. I like the first 2 picks A LOT more, I think they have a lot more long-term potential impact as starters than Murray does.
I'm going to stop you at the prospect part.

Stop swallowing NFL.com and ESPN.com's cock for 3 minutes and digest what I'm about to tell you.

Is Murray the best prospect for the WCO in our system? Yes, absolutely ****ing yes he is. Is he better than Chase? No doubt about it. Will chase stay? Most likely.

Does the guy have all the tangibles to take over for an Alex Smith if he goes down or gets traded or released? Yes, because accuracy takes a paramount in the WCO, and he's got that. Can he start day 1? No. Will he benefit from Alex Smith's tutelage? Yes. Could he eventually unseat Alex for the starting position? Yes. Will any Rookie this year be a Day 1 starter? Doubtful.

We got the guy for our system, not to be a backup, but because we think he's got what it takes to develop into a starter in our system. You don't take a guy like Murray in the 5th round of a limited selection draft because you think he could eventually be your #2. Chase is just fine at the #2, and improving that #2 spot is not a priority.

Common Sense says Reid/Dorsey see something in Murray in this offense, and that's why they jumped.
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Old 05-10-2014, 08:49 PM   #120
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It could turn out well

Aaron Murray could really be the next Tom Brady. While Murray is nothing special physically he just has the feel of someone who has 'it'. Of course drafting quarterbacks is always a lot shot, at least this one has a good feel to it. The price was right.

I would love it if Bray and Murray were good enough to get Daniel kicked to the curb.

Speaking of Bray, seems like Murray is Bray's polar opposite. One with great talent but immature and a bit stupid. The other with moderate talent but a real student of the game and smart.

we'll see
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