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Old 05-05-2014, 10:25 AM  
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Old 05-05-2014, 03:03 PM   #166
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Lol, welcome to a 4-12 season in 2015 if this happens.
Drafting QBs is scary! WHAT IF WE LOSE GAMES??
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Old 05-05-2014, 03:05 PM   #167
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I like Alex Smith too, but you're drastically overselling his importance to this team.
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Old 05-05-2014, 03:08 PM   #168
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If we got Derek Carr in a trade down and accumulated more picks that's a ****ing win
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Old 05-05-2014, 03:09 PM   #169
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Old 05-05-2014, 03:09 PM   #170
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If we got Derek Carr in a trade down and accumulated more picks that's a ****ing win
Yeah...but in what scenario is that going to happen?
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Old 05-05-2014, 03:09 PM   #171
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Jamaal Charles makes any QB better. A lot better. Smith is replaceable, you people act like a middle of the road guy cant be replaced? And he has only been middle of the road for the past couple of years, before that he has shown propensity for injury and suckage.

Let him go if he wont re-sign at a middle of the road contract. Condon 'set the market' with Cutler for way too much for a pedestrian QB. Lets not get fleeced like Chicago.
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Old 05-05-2014, 03:10 PM   #172
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If we got Derek Carr in a trade down and accumulated more picks that's a ****ing win
Thing is I don't think a trade down is possible unless KC is willing to get hosed in value.

Giving up 1.23 for anything less than a 2.1 - 2.16 and a 2.23 - 3.10 isn't worth it IMHO.
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Old 05-05-2014, 03:13 PM   #173
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This is just smokescreen shit. It's the chiefs. They'll bend over for Smith. Pass on a QB like always
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Old 05-05-2014, 03:14 PM   #174
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Thing is I don't think a trade down is possible unless KC is willing to get hosed in value.

Giving up 1.23 for anything less than a 2.1 - 2.16 and a 2.23 - 3.10 isn't worth it IMHO.
I'm not seeing a scenario in which we would be able to trade down AND still draft Carr.
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Old 05-05-2014, 03:18 PM   #175
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Old 05-05-2014, 03:22 PM   #177
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Derek Carr says teams tell him they’d like to pick him in the 20s

Posted by Michael David Smith on May 4, 2014, 7:47 PM EDT


Former Fresno State quarterback Derek Carr says teams are telling him they’d like to draft him somewhere with a pick in the 20s on Thursday night.

One team with a pick in the 20s in this year’s draft, Cleveland at No. 26, is reportedly interested in Carr. But the team that picks Carr might be a team that trades into the pick: According to John Clayton of ESPN, Carr says four or five teams have told him they would like to trade into the 20s to draft him.

It wouldn’t be surprising to see a team with a high second-round pick trade up into the 20s to take Carr there. The new Collective Bargaining Agreement makes drafting a player in the late first round preferable to the early second round in one key respect: First-round picks have fifth-year options on their contracts, whereas second-round picks become free agents after four years. That means that if Carr develops into a franchise quarterback, the team that drafts him gets an extra year before having to break the bank to lock him up with a long-term extension. (With Colin Kaepernick wanting $18 million a year or more on his next deal, San Francisco may wish it had traded up and taken him late in the first round of the 2011 NFL draft, instead of trading up to take him early in the second, so that it would have a fifth-year option on his rookie deal.)

Carr’s stock seems to be rising as the draft approaches, and there’s now a lot of talk that he’ll be drafted higher than former Louisville quarterback Teddy Bridgewater. There’s a good chance that after Johnny Manziel and Blake Bortles, Carr will be the third quarterback off the board, perhaps in the late first round.
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Old 05-05-2014, 03:25 PM   #178
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Thing is I don't think a trade down is possible unless KC is willing to get hosed in value.

Giving up 1.23 for anything less than a 2.1 - 2.16 and a 2.23 - 3.10 isn't worth it IMHO.
Wow lets not get ridiculous with our demands or anything. You must not want to trade down with thinking that pick has that kind of value.

According to the chart the 1.23 is worth less in points than the 2.1 and 3.10. So thinking that you can get both of those other 2cds is not likely. Maybe if you drop the 3rd rounder they might give a little extra and give the 2.23, but there is going to have to be a particular player that team wants.
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If we re-sign Smith, it will be Aaron Murray in the 4th.

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Old 05-05-2014, 03:30 PM   #180
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