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Old 10-07-2012, 09:01 PM  
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There was more, a lot more, and it boiled down to this: Winston was embarrassed by Chiefs fans. He was sickened by them. He wanted no part of them just as virulently as they seem to want no part of him and his teammates.
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What a jarring change. What a sign of just how wide the gulf has grown under the stewardship of co-owner, CEO and chairman Clark Hunt and his hand-picked general manager, Scott Pioli, between a once-beloved team and its once-celebrated fans

How to pass out the blame? Is it, in part, because Clark Hunt seems as distant from this team as his dad seemed connected to it? Because where Lamar walked Arrowhead with a folksy connectedness and everyman-look, Clark travels with a personal assistant who seems to be trying too hard to play a character from the movie Wall Street? Because Pioli’s ego — the one that seems to have kept his $55-million quarterback in the driver’s seat even as he drove it toward this divide — is as bad for reaching fans as it has been at winning football games? Because two decades is too long for anyone to wait for a playoff win? Because we take sports much, much too seriously? Because sports, as much as anything, becomes one of our primary means of escapes in tough times and an unhealthy fixation when historically-difficult economic times descend?
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Is that what we see in Winston’s rant, the fans’ bloodlust for one of their own and the unlikability and underperformance of the key people who have pushed us to this point? Have we seen an irrevocable change to the special bond between the Kansas City Chiefs and Kansas City?
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:36 PM   #46
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War gets ugly.


Lies are going to be spewed. We know we are in the right, so let's just keep fighting along.

Who cares what anyone else thinks?
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:39 PM   #47
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:39 PM   #48
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War gets ugly.


Lies are going to be spewed. We know we are in the right, so let's just keep fighting along.

Who cares what anyone else thinks?
In the end, we will win, because Pioli has done all of this to himself.

He is a dumbass, continues to do stupid ****ing things, and just keeps giving us more ammo.

All we have to do is expose him by passing around the stone cold facts.
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:40 PM   #49
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:40 PM   #50
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We love the Chiefs. Hell, we keep watching and are passionate about them to spend the money we spend on tickets, merchandise, parking, concessions, DTV Sunday Ticket, and the investment of our time.

Considering what this team has put us through, it's a miracle there aren't only 50 people there.

This is good. The national attention forces the media to ask the question: "How did the Chiefs come to this? How did a franchise who was once known for its passionate and supportive fans lose them? Who changed?"
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:40 PM   #51
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Lies are going to be spewed. We know we are in the right, so let's just keep fighting along.

Who cares what anyone else thinks?
Yes. This is progress.
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:41 PM   #52
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In the end, we will win, because Pioli has done all of this to himself.

He is a dumbass, continues to do stupid ****ing things, and just keeps giving us more ammo.

All we have to do is expose him by passing around the stone cold facts.
That depends on Clark Hunt. If he doesn't care, you aren't going to win anything. If he cares and is bothered by this, he's probably going to drop the hammer regardless of what anyone else does because this has been a disaster.
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:41 PM   #53
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In the end, we will win, because Pioli has done all of this to himself.

He is a dumbass, continues to do stupid ****ing things, and just keeps giving us more ammo.

All we have to do is expose him by passing around the stone cold facts.
Or "we" lose if the team winds up moving to LA in light of poor ticket sales and an unfriendly local environment...
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:42 PM   #54
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:42 PM   #55
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War gets ugly.


Lies are going to be spewed. We know we are in the right, so let's just keep fighting along.

Who cares what anyone else thinks?
Mr. notorious, I hesitate to offer counsel and advice to a poster with your undeniable skill and acumen.

But perception is reality. Check it. Market down.

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Old 10-07-2012, 09:43 PM   #56
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:43 PM   #57
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Or "we" lose if the team winds up moving to LA in light of poor ticket sales and an unfriendly local environment...
I would consider that a win if I lived in KC. Would no longer be tempted to buy tickets to watch a team that hasn't won anything meaningful in 43 years.
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Or "we" lose if the team winds up moving to LA in light of poor ticket sales and an unfriendly local environment...
Well, bye.
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:50 PM   #59
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:52 PM   #60
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Guys, this is bad.

The national media are, in essence, giving Pioli a defense by demeaning the fans. It's a story line with a sub-text like, "Chiefs fans are so stupid and unsportsmanlike and rude, they wouldn't know a good GM if he crapped on their coffee table. But what can you expect from a bunch of fly-over-state rednecks?"

Something like that.

We need to get the real story out to these media knuckleheads. It's important that they realize we're not the ignorant clod-kickers Pioli would like them to believe we are.

I encourage all Planeteers to respond by contacting these writers with the truth. I know I will be doing just that.

Oh, and if you want to know the truth, please refer to Mr. gblowfish's 10 Things I'd Like To Stuff Up Pioli's Ass. It's all there.

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This.

And to make matters worse, the Nation will never hear the fan's side of the story. Now we're just the "classless" fan base who boo'd our injured QB.
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