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Old 05-02-2018, 09:22 PM  
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Trump Reimbursed Cohen for Stormy Daniels Payment?

No WAY, dudes....wait, Guilanni is saying this. Friggin' pillowbiter commie transgendered Cuck...

That would mean Trump bold-faced lied to cameras and the American people, on numerous occasions....no WAY. Can you believe these fascists!

Damn FAKE news drama queens are spreading more LIES!

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/02/polit...mey/index.html

Giuliani says Trump reimbursed Cohen for Stormy Daniels payment

Washington (CNN)


Rudy Giuliani said Wednesday that President Donald Trump paid back his personal lawyer, Michael Cohen, the $130,000 in hush money that was used to pay off Stormy Daniels.

The payment is going to turn out to be "perfectly legal," Giuliani said in an interview with Fox News' Sean Hannity.

"That money was not campaign money, sorry," Giuliani said. "I'm giving you a fact now that you don't know. It's not campaign money. No campaign finance violation."

Hannity replied: "Because they funneled it through the law firm?"
To which Giuliani said: "Funneled it through the law firm, and the President repaid him."

Giuliani recently joined Trump's legal team in an effort to bring special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation into Russia's 2016 election meddling and any possible coordination with the Trump campaign to an end. The addition of Giuliani came following the departure of Trump's former lawyer John Dowd.

Trump previously denied knowledge of the payment, which has since spurred a lawsuit against the President.

When asked about Giuliani's comments, White House deputy press secretary Hogan Gidley told Fox News that it is ongoing litigation and referred the questions to the President's outside counsel.

Cohen admitted to paying Daniels out of his own pocket through a private LLC. However, Trump never signed the nondisclosure agreement, so Daniels is claiming in her suit that the agreement is now void.

"In a private transaction in 2016, I used my own personal funds to facilitate a payment of $130,000 to Ms. Stephanie Clifford," Cohen said in a statement in February. "Neither the Trump Organization nor the Trump campaign was a party to the transaction with Ms. Clifford, and neither reimbursed me for the payment, either directly or indirectly."

There have been questions surrounding the legality of the payment considering various campaign finance laws.

In January, the group Common Cause sent letters to Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein and the Federal Election Commission asking them to investigate the Daniels payment, calling it an illegal in-kind campaign contribution.

Daniels' lawyer Michael Avenatti said he was "stunned" by Giuliani's claim that Trump knew about the payment. "I am stunned and speechless. If this is accurate, the American people have been lied to and deceived for months. And justice must be served," Avenatti said.

Common Cause's Paul S. Ryan said Giuliani's comments could expose Trump to possible criminal prosecution, along with Cohen. Ryan said if Trump reimbursed Cohen that would mean Trump knew about the payment, which would make Trump vulnerable.

Ryan said despite whether Cohen was paid back, Trump's lawyer could have violated campaign contribution law, because Ryan said it appears Cohen made an illegally large in-kind contribution to the Trump campaign.

In the same interview, Giuliani also called ex-FBI Director James Comey a "disgraceful liar," and said he thinks Comey should be prosecuted.
"I know James Comey. I know the President. Sorry Jim, you're a liar -- a disgraceful liar," Giuliani said.

Giuliani then went on to say that "every FBI agent in America has his head down," because of Comey.

Comey and Trump have had a tumultuous relationship following Comey's firing. Comey recently published a memoir, which detailed his encounters with the President, and has said he thinks Trump is "morally unfit" for the presidency.

Trump, in turn, has also repeatedly sounded off on Comey via social media.

Prior to Comey's book release, Trump even insinuated Comey should go to jail, tweeting: "The big questions in Comey's badly reviewed book aren't answered like, how come he gave up Classified Information (jail), why did he lie to Congress (jail), why did the DNC refuse to give Server to the FBI (why didn't they TAKE it), why the phony memos, McCabe's $700,000 & more?"

Giuliani echoed that suggestion on Fox News, telling Hannity that Comey should be prosecuted.

"Comey should be prosecuted for leaking confidential FBI information when he leaked his report intended to develop a special prosecutor for the President of the United States," Giuliani said.

CNN's MJ Lee and Sara Sidner contributed to this report.

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Old 05-03-2018, 08:46 AM   #121
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Sorry, no, it is not.
The laws state otherwise.

Here is what I have seen with many of the many missteps by Trump & Co.:

Step 1 - I didn't do it!!!!
Step 2 - Ok, maybe I did do it, but look at what Obama and Hillary did!!!!
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Old 05-03-2018, 08:50 AM   #122
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Then you really haven't been paying attention at all. Plenty of members of Congress who are just as bad as Trump, from both sides of the aisle.
Who are they and what metric are you using to determine "just as bad"?
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Old 05-03-2018, 08:52 AM   #123
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I'm more concerned with Tax cuts, better trade deals, safer borders, the progress being made in Korea and a laundry list of other items much more than a professional sex worker who had consensual sex with a guy 10 years before his current position.

I don't care. I don't care at all.
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Old 05-03-2018, 08:54 AM   #124
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I'm more concerned with Tax cuts, better trade deals, safer borders, the progress being made in Korea and a laundry list of other items much more than a professional sex worker who had consensual sex with a guy 10 years before his current position.

I don't care. I don't care at all.
Agreed. I don't think anyone would care. So why lie about it? Why try to cover it up? Why lie about the cover up?
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Old 05-03-2018, 08:55 AM   #125
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Don't know. Don't care. It has nothing to do with his current position in this country.

This is low road muckraking by the same liberals who vowed to ruin Trump on election night.


I don't care at all. Enjoy his next 7 years as POTUS.
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Who are they and what metric are you using to determine "just as bad"?
you cant be serious?

Are you familiar with what the DNC did during the primary?
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Old 05-03-2018, 08:55 AM   #127
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According to someone like Dr. Corsi, Trump uses who he needs for what he wants to do next. When that is accomplished, he will change out people again for what he wants done then and so on.

I do know that the art of the deal involves creating uncertainty and unpredictability as a method of operating. So I am not so sure, it's eccentricity but a way of chumping others.
One of the few things I like about Trump is his pro-business, let's just get shit done mindset that he has brought to the Office. The problem is, that in business, you often say what you have to say, and do what you have to do in order to get shit done (generally, as long as it's legal). In politics, they constantly check your facts and your message to see how it's changed, or if they can catch you in a lie. For Trump, imo, it's his biggest shortcoming in his transition from Private Business to Public Office. He's completely dreadful with managing his own message, so I can't imagine the sort of work his Staff has to do with daily damage control. Must be miserable....
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Old 05-03-2018, 09:01 AM   #128
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The laws state otherwise.

Here is what I have seen with many of the many missteps by Trump & Co.:

Step 1 - I didn't do it!!!!
Step 2 - Ok, maybe I did do it, but look at what Obama and Hillary did!!!!
Step 3 - I did it, but it's not illegal.
Step 4 - Ok, maybe it's illegal, but it's totally not a big deal.
Step 5 - MAGA!!!!! Librul Tearzzzz!!!! Sad!!!!!
What law says what you think is illegal? Let's see it. I don't care about your rhetoric.
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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Who are they and what metric are you using to determine "just as bad"?
Dude, please. You are fast becoming an idiot. You know better. Just stop.
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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Agreed. I don't think anyone would care. So why lie about it? Why try to cover it up? Why lie about the cover up?
Why lie about cheating on your Wife?

Please go play in traffic.
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I hated Bill Clinton. Couldn't stand him. Not thrilled that he lied under oath. But I completely understood. Men will lie, lie and lie some more about cheating. And when they can't lie anymore, they will massage the truth as much as they can for as long as they can.


Then again, some of you are hanging onto this as tight as you can because you know you have little else to grasp onto. And you know you are grasping a greased pole.....yes, pun intended
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Dude, please. You are fast becoming an idiot. You know better. Just stop.
If you view that question as somehow idiotic, the concern should probably be with you. An evaluation was clearly made; Iím simply asking for the metric and results. Should be incredibly easy to produce.
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Why lie about cheating on your Wife?

Please go play in traffic.
He has cheated over and over. What is gained by lying in this case?
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Old 05-03-2018, 09:52 AM   #134
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He has cheated over and over. What is gained by lying in this case?
Giuliani just answered that on Fox News when he tied the payment to the campaign.
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He has cheated over and over. What is gained by lying in this case?
FFS, you're being a moron
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