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Old 06-25-2018, 08:06 PM  
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CNN suddenly wants to be treated with civility???

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During a live shot in the next hour, Acosta decried the lack of civility by these Trump supporters and highlighted a woman who had heckled him. Responding to her calls for CNN to pack up and leave, he asserted like a true firefighter that “we are here to do our jobs.”
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Fast-forward exactly an hour later and Acosta was peeved that he had gotten a taste of his own medicine: “With all of this talk of civility, Wolf, I can tell you not all of the people in this crowd...treated us with that level of civility that we all think that Americans should be entitled to across this country.”
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Old 06-25-2018, 09:38 PM   #46
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Sure it is....it's not my fault you are putting case study of projection, denial and hypocrisy on display. Those are choices you made for yourself.
You made a claim. I asked you to support it. You did not. Those are your choices and your claim is bullshit.
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Old 06-25-2018, 09:44 PM   #47
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CNN is probably biased. Yes. I would be too, if the ****ing potus didn't like his antics getting displayed on a daily basis and started attacking them.
attacked..

More like confronted.

Far too often in journalism, as seen above, personal feelings are more important than anything else, including the facts.
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Old 06-25-2018, 09:46 PM   #48
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Sure it is....it's not my fault you are putting case study of projection, denial and hypocrisy on display. Those are choices you made for yourself.
You have never displayed one thing to back up your claim. Not one. Not a single one. Nothing. You've done nothing to back up your claim. Nothing. Zero. Nothing.

You made a claim and now you're to the point of attacking me. You won't get it. This is for other people looking in on this thread to realize how intellectually dishonest you are and that they need to really evaluate all of the threads you start - because you lie and make shit up.
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Old 06-25-2018, 09:47 PM   #49
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You made a claim. I asked you to support it. You did not. Those are your choices and your claim is bullshit.
No, I didn't indulge you in your game where no matter what someone showed you, you would defend it. You have already admitted such several times now in this thread alone. I am not out to convince someone who is determined not to be convinced. So say whatever you want but your ploy is very obvious.
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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Old 06-25-2018, 09:47 PM   #50
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attacked..

More like confronted.

Far too often in journalism, as seen above, personal feelings are more important than anything else, including the facts.
I disagree with you stevieray.
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Old 06-25-2018, 09:48 PM   #51
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No, I didn't indulge you in your game where no matter what someone showed you, you would defend it. You have already admitted such several times now in this thread alone. I am not out to convince someone who is determined not to be convinced. So say whatever you want but your ploy is very obvious.
My "game" is truth - and you can't subscribe to it.
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Old 06-25-2018, 09:48 PM   #52
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I will post this only once on this site and you can do with it what you will.

My father was a Pulitzer prize winning editor for the Anchorage Daily News prior to his death.

My mother is a Doctor of journalism that teaches to this day at a respected school of journalism.

They both have/had ****ing integrity. A lot of ****ing integrity.

That pushed me to go back to go back to school to also get a journalism degree. Which I did. I know that integrity is still taught. That getting it right is the most important thing you can do. It doesn't matter about identity politics, it matters about getting the story right.

CNN is probably biased. Yes. I would be too, if the ****ing potus didn't like his antics getting displayed on a daily basis and started attacking them.

Debasing the media because you don't like their reporting is intellectually dishonest and absolutely dangerous for democracy.
I can understand your request for hard data regarding Acosta, but you have to recognize that you give strong indications that you are coming from a place of presumption. Acosta professes to be engaging in an activity that you find honorable. And on the basis of the honor of that ENDEAVOR, you are reticent to believe data that he is doing so in any manner different than your ideal.

I don't have the interest or energy to catalog Acosta's micro and macro-sins into a case against him. He's Huckabee-Sanders' problem [and the NYT's], not mine. But when people do present evidence, do try to assess it objectively. Because the door swings both ways. If Acosta is not living up to the ideals you have for journalists, that should piss you off even more than people being overly critical of his shortcomings.
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Old 06-25-2018, 09:50 PM   #53
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I can understand your request for hard data regarding Acosta, but you have to recognize that you give strong indications that you are coming from a place of presumption. Acosta professes to be engaging in an activity that you find honorable. And on the basis of the honor of that ENDEAVOR, you are reticent to believe data that he is doing so in any manner different than your ideal.

I don't have the interest or energy to catalog Acosta's micro and macro-sins into a case against him. He's Huckabee-Sanders' problem [and the NYT's], not mine. But when people do present evidence, do try to assess it objectively. Because the door swings both ways. If Acosta is not living up to the ideals you have for journalists, that should piss you off even more than people being overly critical of his shortcomings.
Thank you, because I have no time for presumptuous journalists. I do not find Acosta in that corner. I think he does a good job.
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Old 06-25-2018, 09:50 PM   #54
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My "game" is truth - and you can't subscribe to it.
sure it is......Dude, who are you trying to convince, yourself, or everyone else?
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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Old 06-25-2018, 09:51 PM   #55
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Old 06-25-2018, 09:51 PM   #56
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sure it is......Dude, who are you trying to convince, yourself, or everyone else?
lol - god bless.
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Old 06-25-2018, 09:52 PM   #57
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Thank you, because I have no time for presumptuous journalists. I do not find Acosta in that corner. I think he does a good job.
Of course you do.
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So, if they were polling better than Trump and the primary goal was to prevent Hillary from becoming POTUS, perhaps it would have been a better strategic decision to nominate someone who actually had a chance of beating her and preventing that than nominating Donald Trump.
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Old 06-25-2018, 10:47 PM   #58
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Are you two mults?
No

You get that Acosta is the asshole "reporter" who was screaming questions during the Trump/Kim meeting in Singapore, because he wasn't allowed in while they were talking together, right? You get that his plan to start shouting like a petulant child was overheard on a hot mike, right?

You get that Acosta is the asshole "reporter" who started screaming out about DACA kids during the annual White House Easter Egg hunt, right?

You get that Acosta has yelled at Sarah Huckabee Sanders during press conferences, because he didn't feel he'd gotten enough attention, right?

That's not civil.
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Old 06-25-2018, 10:50 PM   #59
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My stance is that I unequivocally believe in the journalists at the New York Times, Washington Post and CNN. They make mistakes - yes. However, this is where real news is found, created and reported. The demonizing of this process is the primary reason I despise the current administration.
And your response here is a prime example of your stupidity.
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Old 06-25-2018, 10:56 PM   #60
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I will post this only once on this site and you can do with it what you will.

My father was a Pulitzer prize winning editor for the Anchorage Daily News prior to his death.

My mother is a Doctor of journalism that teaches to this day at a respected school of journalism.

They both have/had ****ing integrity. A lot of ****ing integrity.

That pushed me to go back to go back to school to also get a journalism degree. Which I did. I know that integrity is still taught. That getting it right is the most important thing you can do. It doesn't matter about identity politics, it matters about getting the story right.

CNN is probably biased. Yes. I would be too, if the ****ing potus didn't like his antics getting displayed on a daily basis and started attacking them.

Debasing the media because you don't like their reporting is intellectually dishonest and absolutely dangerous for democracy.
Pulitzer lost what little credibility it had when it refused to revoke Walter Duranty's prize. Remember that Duranty was basically Stalin's mouthpiece to the west and was completely uncritical of the brutal Soviet regime including the Holodomor.
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