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Old 06-26-2018, 09:20 PM  
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A 28-year-old Democratic Socialist just ousted a powerful, 10-term congressman in NY



Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a 28-year-old Latina running her first campaign, ousted 10-term incumbent Rep. Joe Crowley in New York's 14th congressional district on Tuesday, CNN projects, in the most shocking upset of a rollicking political season.

An activist and member of the Democratic Socialists of America, Ocasio-Cortez won over voters in the minority-majority district with a ruthlessly efficient grassroots bid, even as Crowley -- the fourth-ranking Democrat in the House -- outraised her by a 10-to-1 margin.

This was the first time in 14 years a member of his own party has attempted to unseat Crowley, who chairs the Queens County Democrats. His defeat marks a potential sea change in the broader sphere of liberal politics -- a result with implications for Democrats nationwide that would recall, as optimistic progressives routinely noted during the campaign, former GOP Majority Leader Eric Cantor's loss to the insurgent, tea party-backed Dave Brat in June 2014.

"This is not an end, this is the beginning. This is the beginning because the message that we sent the world tonight is that it's not OK to put donors before your community," Ocasio-Cortez told roaring supporters on Tuesday night.

She cast her victory as the green shoots of triumph over the "deep midnight and darkness" of the political moment -- and a message to fellow progressive organizers that their brand of activism could succeed on a grander scale.

"You have given this country hope, you have given this country proof that when you knock on your neighbor's door, when you come to them with love, when you let them know that no matter your stance, you are there for them — that we can make change," she said.

Even as Ocasio-Cortez ran defiantly to his left -- with universal health care, a federal jobs guarantee and the abolition of ICE headlining her demands -- Crowley touted a formidable liberal record of his own. He was the first member of the House Democratic leadership to sign on in support of "Medicare for all" and has been a vocal advocate for immigrants' rights. But he also stumbled, repeatedly, on the campaign trail, the likely residue of passing so many years without a primary test.

Citing scheduling conflicts, he missed a debate in the Bronx with Ocasio-Cortez, sending former city councilwoman Annabel Palma as a surrogate. The New York Times editorial board took note of his no-show, and warned the ambitious congressman against taking his constituents for granted.
"What are we," the board asked on behalf of voters, "chopped liver?"

In an interview hours before the polls opened Tuesday, Ocasio-Cortez called his absence that night "disrespectful, not just to me but to the entire community." On Twitter after the debate, she noted that Palma, also Latina, bore a "slight resemblance to me."

"I understand he hasn't been challenged for 14 years," Ocasio-Cortez said, "but that doesn't mean that an election isn't happening. In fact, what's happening right now is historic and it's an opportunity to show up for the community."

She has also spent time at the front lines of the pitched battle over US border policy under the Trump administration. Last weekend, just days before the primary, Ocasio-Cortez left New York to join protests at an ICE detention center in Texas.

"The reason I was able to do that is because we have built a legitimately strong grassroots movement of organizers here to hold it down for 24 to 48 hours," she said, "and I think that's reflective of the strength of what we have built here. It was an advantage, actually, because our community here really wanted to do something and they didn't want to feel like they were choosing organizing the campaign over choosing to comment and organize around this moment."

She also managed to tie that activism, along with her vocal, unapologetic demand for the full abolition of ICE to the interests of her district's diverse population.

"We have families and communities here (in the 14th District) from Ecuador and Colombia, Bangladesh, Korea, Pakistan, and I see them every day, many of them are very scared about what's going on," she said. "With my campaign, in terms of immigration, we're trying to say, 'Hey, we've got your back.'"

Crowley also took some shots at ICE, calling it "fascistic," but stopping short of demanding its elimination. During a televised debate with Ocasio-Cortez less than two weeks before the primary, Crowley argued that "simply abolishing the agency doesn't take it out of the hands of (Attorney General) Jeff Sessions or this president."

He then pivoted to what had been a driving theme of his campaign -- the argument that, with Trump in office, Democrats should lean on experienced lawmakers, and away from more ideological firebrands, to navigate the opposition on Capitol Hill.

"It's about making change in Washington," said Crowley, who in his leadership role has raised money for Democrats around the country. "It's about Democrats taking back control of the House of Representatives -- and that's what I'm about doing."

But with Tuesday's results, he will be doing it from the sideline.

"I want to congratulate Ms. Ocasio-Cortez on her victory tonight," Crowley said in a statement. "I look forward to supporting her and all Democrats this November. The Trump administration is a threat to everything we stand for here in Queens and the Bronx, and if we don't win back the House this November, we will lose the nation we love."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/26/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-joe-crowley-new-york-14-primary/index.html
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Old 06-27-2018, 08:28 AM   #61
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This is a shot across the bow for establishment Dems. Crowley was front-runner to replace Pelosi as leader of the Dems and now they have no viable backup in place.

It's one district in a heavily hispanic Dem stronghold but having fringe progressive candidates like her, with a socialist platform that has no chance as a national message, start to replace the centrist Dems isn't good for them or the nation imho. The NRCC is celebrating Crowley's defeat at the hands of a Bernie sis.
The destruction of the democrap party is definitely good for the nation, IMO. Anything that continues to show these ****s for what they are works for me. She'll be another screeching Maxine Waters clone, ranting for hatred against America and whitey, effectively driving what's left of the sane democrats to us.

They've sown the seeds of their own destruction. Nobody's putting the cork back on the bottle.

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Old 06-27-2018, 08:29 AM   #62
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Did I read part of her platform is eliminating ICE? So we're just supposed to stop all enforcement of immigration laws and customs enforcement?
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Old 06-27-2018, 08:34 AM   #63
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Did I read part of her platform is eliminating ICE? So we're just supposed to stop all enforcement of immigration laws and customs enforcement?
Yes, that's part of it. Also federal mandated Jobs for everyone.

They say "socialist" but she's definitely a communist
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Did I read part of her platform is eliminating ICE? So we're just supposed to stop all enforcement of immigration laws and customs enforcement?
Customs Enforcement, and Immigration and Naturalization enforcement, were separate ad hoc agencies with their own discrete resources and mandates until DHS initiated a reorganization pursuant to HSA in 2003.

The idea, as best you can get them to put it into words, is to disband the reorganization and mandates under HSA and go back to previous [pre-2003] investigation and enforcement policies and procedures.
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Old 06-27-2018, 08:40 AM   #65
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The destruction of the democrap party is definitely good for the nation, IMO. Anything that continues to show these ****s for what they are works for me. She'll be another screeching Maxine Waters clone, ranting for hatred against America and whitey, effectively driving what's left of the sane democrats to us.

They've sown the seeds of their own destruction. Nobody's putting the cork back on the bottle.

It's beautiful, man!

The death of the radical progressive movement will be good for the nation when it happens. The return of the moderate Dem party would also be a good thing. When both parties are functioning properly it's a good check and balance for the nation imho.
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Old 06-27-2018, 08:43 AM   #66
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The death of the radical progressive movement will be good for the nation when it happens. The return of the moderate Dem party would also be a good thing. When both parties are functioning properly it's a good check and balance for the nation imho.
That can come later. There's too much damage to un**** right now.
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If you're not a radical you don't have a place with the democrat party. Look at the libs here for proof. Show me one that is a moderate, I sure as hell can't think of any. Some will tell us they're moderate but their takes tell us something completely different. These people have lost their ****ing minds.
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If you're not a radical you don't have a place with the democrat party. Look at the libs here for proof. Show me one that is a moderate, I sure as hell can't think of any. Some will tell us they're moderate but their takes tell us something completely different. These people have lost their ****ing minds.
There are a few, I respect them even tho I disagree with them.
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If you're not a radical you don't have a place with the democrat party. Look at the libs here for proof. Show me one that is a moderate, I sure as hell can't think of any. Some will tell us they're moderate but their takes tell us something completely different. These people have lost their ****ing minds.
There are a few, like NewChief, but you hear less and less from them. The psychopaths have taken over.

Pretty much every thread here lately is one or more of Looniguana, rodeopanties, Hammertard or GayeMania spewing socialist idiocy and everybody else slapping them around. Obviously any liberal with a shred of sanity left would question being on the same side of an argument as any of these clowns.
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The death of the radical progressive movement will be good for the nation when it happens. The return of the moderate Dem party would also be a good thing. When both parties are functioning properly it's a good check and balance for the nation imho.
Unfortunately it is GROWING. Particularly among youth. This is what happens when conservatives trust govt, by trusting its schools and placing their kids in public school indoctrination camps for over 2 decades . This is the result. Reap. Sow.
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That thing looks like it was lifted right from the Socialist Internationale or one of Marx's diatribes. Free everything. No mention how to pay for it all.
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Did I read part of her platform is eliminating ICE? So we're just supposed to stop all enforcement of immigration laws and customs enforcement?
Yep! It's Newspeak for Open Borders. They won't say those words though because it's not a popular issue with most voters right now.
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This is a shot across the bow for establishment Dems. Crowley was front-runner to replace Pelosi as leader of the Dems and now they have no viable backup in place.

It's one district in a heavily hispanic Dem stronghold but having fringe progressive candidates like her, with a socialist platform that has no chance as a national message, start to replace the centrist Dems isn't good for them or the nation imho. The NRCC is celebrating Crowley's defeat at the hands of a Bernie sis.
Is that like how the DCCC celebrated Cantor losing his primary in 2014?

Hmm...remind me, what happened in November that year?

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