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Old 06-26-2018, 09:20 PM  
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A 28-year-old Democratic Socialist just ousted a powerful, 10-term congressman in NY



Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, a 28-year-old Latina running her first campaign, ousted 10-term incumbent Rep. Joe Crowley in New York's 14th congressional district on Tuesday, CNN projects, in the most shocking upset of a rollicking political season.

An activist and member of the Democratic Socialists of America, Ocasio-Cortez won over voters in the minority-majority district with a ruthlessly efficient grassroots bid, even as Crowley -- the fourth-ranking Democrat in the House -- outraised her by a 10-to-1 margin.

This was the first time in 14 years a member of his own party has attempted to unseat Crowley, who chairs the Queens County Democrats. His defeat marks a potential sea change in the broader sphere of liberal politics -- a result with implications for Democrats nationwide that would recall, as optimistic progressives routinely noted during the campaign, former GOP Majority Leader Eric Cantor's loss to the insurgent, tea party-backed Dave Brat in June 2014.

"This is not an end, this is the beginning. This is the beginning because the message that we sent the world tonight is that it's not OK to put donors before your community," Ocasio-Cortez told roaring supporters on Tuesday night.

She cast her victory as the green shoots of triumph over the "deep midnight and darkness" of the political moment -- and a message to fellow progressive organizers that their brand of activism could succeed on a grander scale.

"You have given this country hope, you have given this country proof that when you knock on your neighbor's door, when you come to them with love, when you let them know that no matter your stance, you are there for them — that we can make change," she said.

Even as Ocasio-Cortez ran defiantly to his left -- with universal health care, a federal jobs guarantee and the abolition of ICE headlining her demands -- Crowley touted a formidable liberal record of his own. He was the first member of the House Democratic leadership to sign on in support of "Medicare for all" and has been a vocal advocate for immigrants' rights. But he also stumbled, repeatedly, on the campaign trail, the likely residue of passing so many years without a primary test.

Citing scheduling conflicts, he missed a debate in the Bronx with Ocasio-Cortez, sending former city councilwoman Annabel Palma as a surrogate. The New York Times editorial board took note of his no-show, and warned the ambitious congressman against taking his constituents for granted.
"What are we," the board asked on behalf of voters, "chopped liver?"

In an interview hours before the polls opened Tuesday, Ocasio-Cortez called his absence that night "disrespectful, not just to me but to the entire community." On Twitter after the debate, she noted that Palma, also Latina, bore a "slight resemblance to me."

"I understand he hasn't been challenged for 14 years," Ocasio-Cortez said, "but that doesn't mean that an election isn't happening. In fact, what's happening right now is historic and it's an opportunity to show up for the community."

She has also spent time at the front lines of the pitched battle over US border policy under the Trump administration. Last weekend, just days before the primary, Ocasio-Cortez left New York to join protests at an ICE detention center in Texas.

"The reason I was able to do that is because we have built a legitimately strong grassroots movement of organizers here to hold it down for 24 to 48 hours," she said, "and I think that's reflective of the strength of what we have built here. It was an advantage, actually, because our community here really wanted to do something and they didn't want to feel like they were choosing organizing the campaign over choosing to comment and organize around this moment."

She also managed to tie that activism, along with her vocal, unapologetic demand for the full abolition of ICE to the interests of her district's diverse population.

"We have families and communities here (in the 14th District) from Ecuador and Colombia, Bangladesh, Korea, Pakistan, and I see them every day, many of them are very scared about what's going on," she said. "With my campaign, in terms of immigration, we're trying to say, 'Hey, we've got your back.'"

Crowley also took some shots at ICE, calling it "fascistic," but stopping short of demanding its elimination. During a televised debate with Ocasio-Cortez less than two weeks before the primary, Crowley argued that "simply abolishing the agency doesn't take it out of the hands of (Attorney General) Jeff Sessions or this president."

He then pivoted to what had been a driving theme of his campaign -- the argument that, with Trump in office, Democrats should lean on experienced lawmakers, and away from more ideological firebrands, to navigate the opposition on Capitol Hill.

"It's about making change in Washington," said Crowley, who in his leadership role has raised money for Democrats around the country. "It's about Democrats taking back control of the House of Representatives -- and that's what I'm about doing."

But with Tuesday's results, he will be doing it from the sideline.

"I want to congratulate Ms. Ocasio-Cortez on her victory tonight," Crowley said in a statement. "I look forward to supporting her and all Democrats this November. The Trump administration is a threat to everything we stand for here in Queens and the Bronx, and if we don't win back the House this November, we will lose the nation we love."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/26/politics/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-joe-crowley-new-york-14-primary/index.html
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Old 06-27-2018, 06:46 PM   #106
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I keep seeing the "end ICE" stuff on Twitter and elsewhere and I'm just like

So dumb...
Same they are ****ing morons.
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Old 06-27-2018, 06:46 PM   #107
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I'm not Jewish and I'm a greedy slum-lord.

Anyhow, having a lot of money didn't factor into this election win.
I was just referring back to the article that was linked by baitism about the guy who kept complaining about "greedy jewish landlords".
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Old 06-27-2018, 06:55 PM   #108
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There is a fringe group inside the left that is growing due to Trump and his base fanning the flames.
Stop with the bullshit. Accusing Trump of 'fanning the flames' of the far left is no better than blaming Obama for 'fanning the flames' of white nationalists.

Both fringe elements deserve marginalization, and success in that arena is not a demerit.

The fringe left is inflamed because they are passionate about their worldview.

Playing patty-cake with them may make them less strident, but that is at the cost of making them more normalized and empowered.
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Old 06-27-2018, 07:03 PM   #109
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She really has delusions of grandeur.

The rest of the country is quite different than New York, honey.

Enjoy your bubble and let as many immigrants into New York as you want and sit there and wonder why it continues to be a SOCIALIST-CREATED SHIT HOLE.
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Old 06-27-2018, 07:35 PM   #110
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Same they are ****ing morons.
Well, you won't have to worry about it, unless you live in her district. Aren't you in California?

You've got some of the same Democrats there who'd like to do away with ICE.
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Old 06-27-2018, 07:36 PM   #111
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I was just referring back to the article that was linked by baitism about the guy who kept complaining about "greedy jewish landlords".
Never saw it. I don't always see every post if I go off and on line.
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Old 06-27-2018, 07:38 PM   #112
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depends on who you ask from the party.

The Dems from southern roots aka conner lamb do not and will never support that.

There is a fringe group inside the left that is growing due to Trump and his base fanning the flames.
Those people were always there. They're just using Trump as an excuse. Quit blaming him. He reflects the sentiments of many who feel the same way as he does.
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Old 06-27-2018, 09:13 PM   #113
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So Ocasio-Cortez Supports Impeaching Trump

Guess she's going break the oath to hold-up the Constitution before she even arrives. Yet, Trump hasn't committed any high crimes and misdemeanors as president.

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Many progressives believe impeachment will energize their base to achieve a House or Senate majority. Billionaire donor Tom Steyer is spending tens of millions of dollars on advertising in favor of Trump’s impeachment.
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Several polls have shown that the national conversation about impeachment hurts Democratic candidates, as the threat of rolling back the 2016 election will nationalize the midterms for Republican voters. Support from self-proclaimed socialists like Ocasio-Cortez may further pigeonhole the Democrats’ reputation as a regional party of coastal elites.
http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...impeach-trump/
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Old 06-27-2018, 09:13 PM   #114
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Well, you won't have to worry about it, unless you live in her district. Aren't you in California?

You've got some of the same Democrats there who'd like to do away with ICE.
my entire state is up its own ass about the 12 cent gas tax right now.


Dems can get ****ed for railroading that POS.
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I've heard some interview clips of this girl. I give her props for being honest about her true intentions. Other than that, she is a naive person that doesn't seem to quite get how the real world works.
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my entire state is up its own ass about the 12 cent gas tax right now.


Dems can get ****ed for railroading that POS.
How else can the state pay for roads and bridges? Gas Tax is a use tax and totally fair.
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Apparently you don’t realize every conservative in the country is paying attention to the progressive shit show and will also show up in record numbers.
LOL yeah that's totally gonna happen, red wave incoming!
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Are you serious about that by the way? Do you seriously think more Republicans will show up to vote this November than 2010?
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Are you serious about that by the way? Do you seriously think more Republicans will show up to vote this November than 2010?
Than 2010? Who knows? History tends to favor the out of power party in mid-terms. However, the Left is doing their best to give R's a reason to get out and vote.
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Jesus, OH. You are blaming Trump and his base for fanning the flames? Have you watched the MSM the last year and a half?
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