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Old 04-23-2007, 08:40 AM  
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Pretty alarmist, IMO, but possible.

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Old 02-23-2011, 03:21 PM   #2191
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Our demand has actually dropped over the last few years (since 2008), I believe. But, I understand your sentiment and don't disagree. Unfortunately, we are still massively dependent on crude.
Obviously we are bigger than Brazil but the majority of vehicles run on sugar ethanol now.

We are ****ing America and yet we still haven't figured out how to get off foreign oil. It is pathetic.
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:22 PM   #2192
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I agree
Now Fox news is saying their is a facebook page calling for an uprising in Saudi for early March
Day of rage they are calling it YA
I read this on another site too.
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:26 PM   #2193
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Obviously we are bigger than Brazil but the majority of vehicles run on sugar ethanol now.

We are ****ing America and yet we still haven't figured out how to get off foreign oil. It is pathetic.
Our climate is not conducive to growing sugar cane, unfortunately. Their's is. Even if we began using all the corn we grow to fuel us, it still wouldn't be enough. Ethanol is NOT a solution.
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:26 PM   #2194
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Obviously we are bigger than Brazil but the majority of vehicles run on sugar ethanol now.

We are ****ing America and yet we still haven't figured out how to get off foreign oil. It is pathetic.
Yep. The blame goes to Capitol Hill. ****ing Politicians.
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:27 PM   #2195
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The immediate future for us is to keep making our cars more fuel efficient and continue the introduction of hybrids and plug-ins. That's it, really.
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:29 PM   #2196
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Our climate is not conducive to growing sugar cane, unfortunately. Their's is. Even if we began using all the corn we grow to fuel us, it still wouldn't be enough. Ethanol is NOT a solution.
Yeah, corn ethanol is a joke. It takes way to much corn to produce ethanol.
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Our climate is not conducive to growing sugar cane, unfortunately. Their's is. Even if we began using all the corn we grow to fuel us, it still wouldn't be enough. Ethanol is NOT a solution.
I realize it is not but we surely could have come up with something a whole lot better.
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:31 PM   #2198
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Yep. The blame goes to Capitol Hill. ****ing Politicians.
True but you can't forget the automakers and the oil companies that have squashed some of the companies trying to change things.
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:31 PM   #2199
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Yep. The blame goes to Capitol Hill. ****ing Politicians.
The simple fact is that gasoline is a very efficient method of powering an engine and is still very cost-efficient, too.
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:34 PM   #2200
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True but you can't forget the automakers and the oil companies that have squashed some of the companies trying to change things.
I still blame congress because the automakers and oil companies have lobbyists that influence lawmakers decisions on these issues. That's my theory anyway.
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Old 02-23-2011, 03:36 PM   #2201
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I realize it is not but we surely could have come up with something a whole lot better.
Like what?

Solar? Obviously not.

Hydrogen? Hydrogen is NOT an energy source, but we could use it to generate electricity through power cells. Unfortunately, it's very expensive.

Electric/Hybrid? Like I said, that's the best bet right now, along with increased MPG limits.
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The simple fact is that gasoline is a very efficient method of powering an engine and is still very cost-efficient, too.
I know. Gotta take the good with the bad. We've seen both. The worst is still yet to come.
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True but you can't forget the automakers and the oil companies that have squashed some of the companies trying to change things.
Oh stop it.
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Like what?

Solar? Obviously not.

Hydrogen? Hydrogen is NOT an energy source, but we could use it to generate electricity through power cells. Unfortunately, it's very expensive.

Electric/Hybrid? Like I said, that's the best bet right now, along with increased MPG limits.
The Chevy Volt is a step in that direction. Its just too bad it wasn't around 5 yrs ago.
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