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Old 03-23-2009, 08:44 PM  
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Old 09-30-2013, 04:23 PM   #4261
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How would you have had it go down in the end?
I'm no writer, so I'm not going to make up plot lines and pass them off as creative.

First, this should have been a 2-hour episode. They tried to cram WAY too much in an hour and the setups were so quick that it felt like there was a commercial interruption every 5 minutes. The setups to me felt a little forced, sometimes predictable, and sometimes a little sloppy or way too neat. =I get that this is fiction, but I don't feel like it's typical for Breaking Bad to layer in so many conveniences. Not ruling out that Gilligan maybe did that on purpose.

Secondly, I would have liked to see more development of the situations Walt was trying to redeem. Walt's redemptions couldn't compare to the raw emotion of Jesse killing Todd. Again, maybe that was Gilligan's point.

Reading the AVClub review, thought that was brilliant. Maybe the brilliance was in the simplicity of the whole thing. I just feel like the show went from being really careful about blurring the line between good/evil to creating a Bond like movie with an infallible hero and clear villains.
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Old 09-30-2013, 04:34 PM   #4262
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I kinda feel like the Todd being obsessed with Lydia thing ended up being pretty pointless. I mean, I get that he wanted to continue cooking even after they stole all of Walt's millions because he wanted to still remain connected to Lydia, but aside from that I just kind of expected something else to happen with it. I expected her to fall at the hands of Todd and/or the Nazis.
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Old 09-30-2013, 06:26 PM   #4263
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Old 09-30-2013, 07:44 PM   #4264
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I kinda feel like the Todd being obsessed with Lydia thing ended up being pretty pointless. I mean, I get that he wanted to continue cooking even after they stole all of Walt's millions because he wanted to still remain connected to Lydia, but aside from that I just kind of expected something else to happen with it. I expected her to fall at the hands of Todd and/or the Nazis.
I think the main purpose of that relationship was that it kept Jesse alive. I'm unsure if it would have been worthwhile to further explore that storyline with the last of the series' screentime.
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Old 09-30-2013, 07:58 PM   #4265
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Why do people keep saying Walt gained redemption?

Everyone still hates him. Walt got what Walt wanted. He won. He didn't get shit redeemed. He ruined everyone's life that he touched.
I agree. I think this was an amazing ending. Walt obviously has a large IQ, and has become very skilled at turning that brain towards criminal masterstrokes, so I am unsure why people think it was too James Bond like.

I was sad to see Walt killed. I wish he would have been arrested so he could have had one last day in the spot light.
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Old 09-30-2013, 08:01 PM   #4266
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I think it made perfect sense for Walt to die, because then you know the story is truly over.
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Old 09-30-2013, 08:05 PM   #4267
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I watched it again early this morning and it was fantastic.


There is nothing wrong with wrapping things up neatly.


Walt finally took out the roadblock that kept ****ing up his plan to help his family: Himself.
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Old 09-30-2013, 08:45 PM   #4268
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I watched it again early this morning and it was fantastic.


There is nothing wrong with wrapping things up neatly.


Walt finally took out the roadblock that kept ****ing up his plan to help his family: Himself.
Hmm... That's a fair point.
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Old 09-30-2013, 08:51 PM   #4269
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:12 PM   #4270
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I kinda feel like the Todd being obsessed with Lydia thing ended up being pretty pointless. I mean, I get that he wanted to continue cooking even after they stole all of Walt's millions because he wanted to still remain connected to Lydia, but aside from that I just kind of expected something else to happen with it. I expected her to fall at the hands of Todd and/or the Nazis.
I don't see how it could be pointless given the subsequent sentences of your post.

She allows for the construction of a believable revenge plot (the new cooking method he pitches to Todd), and keeping her in the picture allows the viewer the catharsis of watching the bitch die a miserable death because "she deserves to die as much as any man I've ever met."
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:15 PM   #4271
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I still can't get over the timing of the phone call but everything else was fine
She put a hit on Walt at the end of the meeting. "We'd be putting him out of his misery." Of course she's going to call to see if it went through.
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Old 09-30-2013, 10:19 PM   #4272
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She put a hit on Walt at the end of the meeting. "We'd be putting him out of his misery." Of course she's going to call to see if it went through.
I have no doubt she'll call, but at that precise moment, after the shooting, a millisecond after Jesse walked out.... Ehhhhh
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Did Walt teleport to the coffee shop or did he drive there off camera? There are reasonable assumptions viewers can make about what did and didn't happen, especially when given visual and spoken word evidence about what happened.
Eh. I don't think thats comparable. Putting ricin in the sugar packets is kind of a vital plot point and would show the cause to the effect. Just like how they showed him building the machine he used for the M60 from the garage motor.


It doesn't bother me much, but I could see how it would bother a lot of people.
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To me, one word sums up the finale: satisfying. Lydia's sevia being poisoned? Satisfying. Walt popping uncle Jack in the head? Satisfying. Walt finally admitting he cooked because he wanted to? Satisfying. Elliot and Gretchen having the **** scared out of them? Satisfying. Jesse killing Todd? Satisfying. Jesse being freed? Satisfying.

Perfectly executed finale. What an unbelievable show. Can't believe it's over.
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Elliot and Gretchen having the **** scared out of them? Satisfying.(
First off Jessica Hecht will always be Ross' lesbian ex-wife, but it was even more disconcerting to see the return of Adam Godley as Elliot after his arc as Louis Litt's uber-British nemesis on Suits.
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