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Al Bundy · 10-27-2012, 08:53 PM

Looks like James Harden has been To the Rockets for Jeremey Lamb, Kevin Martin and future picks. Plus... this is a general NBA thread.

KC_Connection · 04-13-2013, 12:22 PM

Kobe's always been one of the greatest competitors the sports has ever seen. He's an arrogant asshole (like many athletes of his stature), sure, but never doubt his competitiveness.

There's no question he'll come back from this. Just probably not as effective as he was before.

jd1020 · 04-13-2013, 12:29 PM

Not sure how a team loses one of its few prolific scorers and isn't taught defense is going to be better without said prolific scorer.

Hootie · 04-13-2013, 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Not sure how a team loses one of its few prolific scorers and isn't taught defense is going to be better without said prolific scorer.

the Patrick Ewing theory of course

also,

Hootie · 04-13-2013, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Not sure how a team loses one of its few prolific scorers and isn't taught defense is going to be better without said prolific scorer.

the Patrick Ewing theory of course

also, I'm the only guy in the world that is an NBA fan and called, before the season, that the Lakers wouldn't be title contenders.

The team that was constructed made no sense.

I have facebook evidence.

I'm a genius.

But I also said the team would be a lot better without either Nash or Kobe...because the two of them together made no sense.

Hootie · 04-13-2013, 12:38 PM

now had Kobe not been injured and Dwight not been such a bitch...

I'm pretty sure a competent GM would have gone out this offseason and got a straight spot up 3 point shooter and this team could have been a 50 game winner in 2014...

which means nothing because they are never going to get past the Thunder with an old Kobe as their best player

and the Thunder are never going to get past LeBron

LeBron is going to rattle off the next 5 championships no matter where he's at. He's just too good. The only thing that could stop him would be a freak injury and I think he's one of those athletes that is just too athletic to get injured.

Hootie · 04-13-2013, 12:40 PM

and after LeBron wins 5 in a row with relative ease I'll comfortably have to call him the greatest basketball player ever...and it won't bother me

because MJ will always be the best killer/closer sports will ever see

last night my friend asked me if I thought LeBron could shut down Jordan defensively and I admitted he probably could have

and the only way MJ had a chance was because of that ridiculous competition gene he had where he wouldn't be able to rest until he figured out how to beat LeBron

jd1020 · 04-13-2013, 12:42 PM

Their team makeup isn't their problem.

It's the way they are coached.

Jim Buss is hell bent on pathing his own way and avoiding any and everything that is proven to win.

He completely threw out the triangle by not even acknowledging Shaw, who had be an assistant under Jackson for like 7 years or some shit. He then went out and hired a moron named Mike Brown who only knew how to get out of LeBron's way. Once that failed he ignored Phil Jackson and went after another moron name Mike D'antoni who doesn't know anything beyond 1 offense and no defense with 0 ability to adjust.

Hootie · 04-13-2013, 12:45 PM

The team was too old. You don't win being that old. Phil wasn't going to win with this team, either. No matter how good the coaching was they weren't getting past the 2nd round at best this year.

okcchief · 04-13-2013, 01:03 PM

Making a prediction for the next 5 years is a go chiefs type statement. You have no idea what the landscape of the NBA will be like next year much less 5 years from now. I'm sure LeBron avoiding injury will be the best player still 5 years from now but who is to say he's even in Miami 5 years from now? Who is to say Wade doesn't go down like Kobe in the next 5 years? Miami is the overwhelming favorite this year, but you are just talking out of your ass predicting anything besides that or 2 years max. You watch enough sports to know shit changes real fast.

okcchief · 04-13-2013, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

The team was too old. You don't win being that old. Phil wasn't going to win with this team, either. No matter how good the coaching was they weren't getting past the 2nd round at best this year.

That we can agree on. Phil could have gotten more out of them, but injuries would have still been there. Had the team stayed healthy they could have been really good, but when you put that many old dudes together shit happens.

Hootie · 04-13-2013, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by okcchief

Making a prediction for the next 5 years is a go chiefs type statement. You have no idea what the landscape of the NBA will be like next year much less 5 years from now. I'm sure LeBron avoiding injury will be the best player still 5 years from now but who is to say he's even in Miami 5 years from now? Who is to say Wade doesn't go down like Kobe in the next 5 years? Miami is the overwhelming favorite this year, but you are just talking out of your ass predicting anything besides that or 2 years max. You watch enough sports to know shit changes real fast.

LeBron can win without Wade or Bosh. He is simply THAT good.

If LeBron doesn't suffer any injuries (and again, I think he's one of those FREAKS that simply isn't ever going to be seriously injured) he's got the rest of the decade on lockdown.

Hootie · 04-13-2013, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by okcchief

That we can agree on. Phil could have gotten more out of them, but injuries would have still been there. Had the team stayed healthy they could have been really good, but when you put that many old dudes together shit happens.

I don't agree...

Kobe, Nash, Howard, Gasol and Artest DON'T MESH AT ALL, FOR ANY COACH.

How does that team make ANY sense? At all?

I looked at it at the time and laughed...I knew they weren't going to be title contenders.

I didn't think they would end up having to fight for a playoff spot bad...

but I predicted they wouldn't make it past the 2nd round at best when everyone was saying the Howard acquisition meant title or bust.

**The Bad Guy** · 04-13-2013, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Fruit Ninja

Its gonna be Nash and Gasol. Howard is horrible for pick and roll. HOward cant pop. Howard is atrocious on offense

We will see the pick in roll with Gasol and Gasol playing inside our or from the Elbow like he's been doing.

Did you know that Howard had the best efficiency in the NBA for big men last year when he was involved in the screen roll?

Hootie · 04-13-2013, 01:10 PM

Kobe's shot at 6 will be if LeBron switches coasts and Kobe reinvents himself as strictly a spot up shooter and being LeBron's Wade Uber-Light in two years.

okcchief · 04-13-2013, 01:11 PM

I believe the Thunder can get past LeBron. I just don't think it will happen this year. The pieces around Westbrook and Durant will change some, and they will only get better. It doesn't mean they will, but no one has any idea how these 2 teams will change the next few years. Miami could very make all the right moves and run off several or other teams could get pieces and take some from them. I would be very surprised if Miami doesn't repeat this year though.

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04-13-2013, 12:22 PM	#2821
KC_Connection Perpetual Mediocrity Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $5402783	Kobe's always been one of the greatest competitors the sports has ever seen. He's an arrogant asshole (like many athletes of his stature), sure, but never doubt his competitiveness. There's no question he'll come back from this. Just probably not as effective as he was before.
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04-13-2013, 12:29 PM	#2822
jd1020 In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2010 Casino cash: $7742645	Not sure how a team loses one of its few prolific scorers and isn't taught defense is going to be better without said prolific scorer.
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04-13-2013, 12:38 PM	#2825
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	now had Kobe not been injured and Dwight not been such a bitch... I'm pretty sure a competent GM would have gone out this offseason and got a straight spot up 3 point shooter and this team could have been a 50 game winner in 2014... which means nothing because they are never going to get past the Thunder with an old Kobe as their best player and the Thunder are never going to get past LeBron LeBron is going to rattle off the next 5 championships no matter where he's at. He's just too good. The only thing that could stop him would be a freak injury and I think he's one of those athletes that is just too athletic to get injured.
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04-13-2013, 12:40 PM	#2826
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	and after LeBron wins 5 in a row with relative ease I'll comfortably have to call him the greatest basketball player ever...and it won't bother me because MJ will always be the best killer/closer sports will ever see last night my friend asked me if I thought LeBron could shut down Jordan defensively and I admitted he probably could have and the only way MJ had a chance was because of that ridiculous competition gene he had where he wouldn't be able to rest until he figured out how to beat LeBron
Posts: 56,356

04-13-2013, 12:42 PM	#2827
jd1020 In Search of a Life Join Date: Nov 2010 Casino cash: $7742645	Their team makeup isn't their problem. It's the way they are coached. Jim Buss is hell bent on pathing his own way and avoiding any and everything that is proven to win. He completely threw out the triangle by not even acknowledging Shaw, who had be an assistant under Jackson for like 7 years or some shit. He then went out and hired a moron named Mike Brown who only knew how to get out of LeBron's way. Once that failed he ignored Phil Jackson and went after another moron name Mike D'antoni who doesn't know anything beyond 1 offense and no defense with 0 ability to adjust.
Posts: 24,322

04-13-2013, 12:45 PM	#2828
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	The team was too old. You don't win being that old. Phil wasn't going to win with this team, either. No matter how good the coaching was they weren't getting past the 2nd round at best this year.
Posts: 56,356

04-13-2013, 01:03 PM	#2829
okcchief MVP Join Date: Jul 2008 Casino cash: $9849890	Making a prediction for the next 5 years is a go chiefs type statement. You have no idea what the landscape of the NBA will be like next year much less 5 years from now. I'm sure LeBron avoiding injury will be the best player still 5 years from now but who is to say he's even in Miami 5 years from now? Who is to say Wade doesn't go down like Kobe in the next 5 years? Miami is the overwhelming favorite this year, but you are just talking out of your ass predicting anything besides that or 2 years max. You watch enough sports to know shit changes real fast.
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04-13-2013, 01:10 PM	#2834
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	Kobe's shot at 6 will be if LeBron switches coasts and Kobe reinvents himself as strictly a spot up shooter and being LeBron's Wade Uber-Light in two years.
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04-13-2013, 01:11 PM	#2835
okcchief MVP Join Date: Jul 2008 Casino cash: $9849890	I believe the Thunder can get past LeBron. I just don't think it will happen this year. The pieces around Westbrook and Durant will change some, and they will only get better. It doesn't mean they will, but no one has any idea how these 2 teams will change the next few years. Miami could very make all the right moves and run off several or other teams could get pieces and take some from them. I would be very surprised if Miami doesn't repeat this year though.
Posts: 6,703