Food and Drink I Need Beer!

**gblowfish** · 06-02-2014, 11:09 AM

I'm supposed to acquire the beer for a party this weekend. Probably need one, maybe two kegs. Anybody got a connection in KC -anywhere from Johnson County to Independence-who would treat me right and make me a good deal?

**LoneWolf** · 06-02-2014, 11:17 AM

Do you hate everybody coming to this party? Why would you subject them to the horrors of keg beer?

R8RFAN · 06-02-2014, 11:21 AM

BYOB unless you want to be liable for everyone getting home

IF I HAVE A HOUSE PARTY, AM I LIABLE IF A GUEST LEAVES THE PARTY AFTER DRINKING AND HURTS SOMEBODY?

This area of the law is known as social host liability. The key in any analysis of social host liability is who controls the alcohol. A host has a duty not to provide alcohol and/or serve alcohol to an intoxicated person.
The Courts have only imposed a duty on social hosts where they have either provided or served alcohol to an intoxicated guest. The reasoning behind this is that if the host provides or serves the alcohol, they can "shut off" the guest just like a bar whereas if the guest provides his own alcohol, the host has no control over the alcohol or its consumption and an attempt to exercise control could lead to physical confrontations.
A brief lesson to be learned in the law of social host liability is that hosts of parties should always advertise parties as "BYOB" (Bring Your Own Booze) in order to shield themselves from liability.
The issue as to a social host's duty to minors is the same as in the case of adults. The issue remains who supplies and controls the alcohol. If the host does not supply or control, there is no liability even to minors.
The duty is greater for restaurants and bars because they have the control over the alcohol and have a duty to ensure that patrons are not intoxicated.

KCUnited · 06-02-2014, 11:22 AM

I'd try keg in kc?

Halfcan · 06-02-2014, 11:54 AM

Let me know when you find a place-I will gladly go pick up the kegs and then make sure the taps work for you.

btw the other two times I did this didn't end to well, but maybe 3rd times the charm.

**Predarat** · 06-02-2014, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by 3rd&48ers

BYOB unless you want to be liable for everyone getting home

IF I HAVE A HOUSE PARTY, AM I LIABLE IF A GUEST LEAVES THE PARTY AFTER DRINKING AND HURTS SOMEBODY?

This area of the law is known as social host liability. The key in any analysis of social host liability is who controls the alcohol. A host has a duty not to provide alcohol and/or serve alcohol to an intoxicated person.
The Courts have only imposed a duty on social hosts where they have either provided or served alcohol to an intoxicated guest. The reasoning behind this is that if the host provides or serves the alcohol, they can "shut off" the guest just like a bar whereas if the guest provides his own alcohol, the host has no control over the alcohol or its consumption and an attempt to exercise control could lead to physical confrontations.
A brief lesson to be learned in the law of social host liability is that hosts of parties should always advertise parties as "BYOB" (Bring Your Own Booze) in order to shield themselves from liability.
The issue as to a social host's duty to minors is the same as in the case of adults. The issue remains who supplies and controls the alcohol. If the host does not supply or control, there is no liability even to minors.
The duty is greater for restaurants and bars because they have the control over the alcohol and have a duty to ensure that patrons are not intoxicated.

That law sucks. So BYOB.

**gblowfish** · 06-02-2014, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3rd&48ers

BYOB unless you want to be liable for everyone getting home

IF I HAVE A HOUSE PARTY, AM I LIABLE IF A GUEST LEAVES THE PARTY AFTER DRINKING AND HURTS SOMEBODY?

This area of the law is known as social host liability. The key in any analysis of social host liability is who controls the alcohol. A host has a duty not to provide alcohol and/or serve alcohol to an intoxicated person.
The Courts have only imposed a duty on social hosts where they have either provided or served alcohol to an intoxicated guest. The reasoning behind this is that if the host provides or serves the alcohol, they can "shut off" the guest just like a bar whereas if the guest provides his own alcohol, the host has no control over the alcohol or its consumption and an attempt to exercise control could lead to physical confrontations.
A brief lesson to be learned in the law of social host liability is that hosts of parties should always advertise parties as "BYOB" (Bring Your Own Booze) in order to shield themselves from liability.
The issue as to a social host's duty to minors is the same as in the case of adults. The issue remains who supplies and controls the alcohol. If the host does not supply or control, there is no liability even to minors.
The duty is greater for restaurants and bars because they have the control over the alcohol and have a duty to ensure that patrons are not intoxicated.

We'll I'm not too worried about people "over-serving" themselves. This is in a church reception hall, with adults all 40-60 years old. It's not like a frat house kegger.

The only one being over-served will probably be me, since I'll have to finish any leftover beer.

GloryDayz · 06-02-2014, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gblowfish

I'm supposed to acquire the beer for a party this weekend. Probably need one, maybe two kegs. Anybody got a connection in KC -anywhere from Johnson County to Independence-who would treat me right and make me a good deal?

I'll PM you.. But yes, yes I do...

Dayze · 06-02-2014, 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCUnited

I'd try keg in kc?

Boom.

GloryDayz · 06-02-2014, 12:46 PM

George,

Check your PMs.. It's worth a call at least. I know you'll be happy...

Dayze · 06-02-2014, 12:52 PM

can we crash the party? Rain Man does a killer Riverdance if that sweetens the deal any.

Inmen can bring the ketchup.

**gblowfish** · 06-02-2014, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dayze

can we crash the party?

Rain Man does a killer Riverdance if that sweetens the deal any.

Inmen can bring the ketchup.

Answers:
Question 1:
No.
Question 2:
No.
Question 3:
Who in his right mind puts ketchup on a hot dog?

**gblowfish** · 06-02-2014, 01:33 PM

Interesting chasing this stuff down.
Boulevard Wheat in a 16 gallon keg runs between $140 and $150/keg, that's about $9 per gallon. Boulevard Tank 7 Farmhouse ale, their signature craft beer is $90 for a 5-gallon keg, or $18 for a gallon. Could it be twice as good for twice the price? Basic Coors Light (which the women all want to drink) is about $8/gallon for an 8-gallon keg. I hate Coors Light and I hate Bud Light too. But women won't drink Boulevard Wheat.

**TimBone** · 06-02-2014, 01:38 PM

The Tank 7 is definitely worth the price bump if they enjoy quality beer. The fact that they're asking for Coors light tells me they know nothing about quality beer. Just buy them the cheap swill and be done with it.

Chief Roundup · 06-02-2014, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

Do you hate everybody coming to this party? Why would you subject them to the horrors of keg beer?

I always thought keg beer was much better than canned or bottled beer. I am not a beer drinker though.
What is the horror that comes with keg beer?

06-02-2014, 11:09 AM
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17686178 VARSITY	I Need Beer! I'm supposed to acquire the beer for a party this weekend. Probably need one, maybe two kegs. Anybody got a connection in KC -anywhere from Johnson County to Independence-who would treat me right and make me a good deal?
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06-02-2014, 11:17 AM	#2
LoneWolf Constable of Untruths Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Wichita Casino cash: $1761084	Do you hate everybody coming to this party? Why would you subject them to the horrors of keg beer?
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06-02-2014, 11:21 AM	#3
R8RFAN Molôn Labé Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North Carolina Casino cash: $8566872	BYOB unless you want to be liable for everyone getting home IF I HAVE A HOUSE PARTY, AM I LIABLE IF A GUEST LEAVES THE PARTY AFTER DRINKING AND HURTS SOMEBODY? This area of the law is known as social host liability. The key in any analysis of social host liability is who controls the alcohol. A host has a duty not to provide alcohol and/or serve alcohol to an intoxicated person. The Courts have only imposed a duty on social hosts where they have either provided or served alcohol to an intoxicated guest. The reasoning behind this is that if the host provides or serves the alcohol, they can "shut off" the guest just like a bar whereas if the guest provides his own alcohol, the host has no control over the alcohol or its consumption and an attempt to exercise control could lead to physical confrontations. A brief lesson to be learned in the law of social host liability is that hosts of parties should always advertise parties as "BYOB" (Bring Your Own Booze) in order to shield themselves from liability. The issue as to a social host's duty to minors is the same as in the case of adults. The issue remains who supplies and controls the alcohol. If the host does not supply or control, there is no liability even to minors. The duty is greater for restaurants and bars because they have the control over the alcohol and have a duty to ensure that patrons are not intoxicated.
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06-02-2014, 11:22 AM	#4
KCUnited Cheat Death Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Land of Drincoln Casino cash: $2318244	I'd try keg in kc?
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06-02-2014, 11:54 AM	#5
Halfcan In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7327995	Let me know when you find a place-I will gladly go pick up the kegs and then make sure the taps work for you. btw the other two times I did this didn't end to well, but maybe 3rd times the charm.
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06-02-2014, 12:46 PM	#10
GloryDayz (Sir/Yes Sir/Aye Aye Sir) Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Diving Casino cash: $3555380	George, Check your PMs.. It's worth a call at least. I know you'll be happy...
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06-02-2014, 12:52 PM	#11
Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $5199358	can we crash the party? Rain Man does a killer Riverdance if that sweetens the deal any. Inmen can bring the ketchup. __________________ Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial. RIP & Godspeed: Saccoppo Lonewolf Ed Fire Me Boy
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06-02-2014, 01:33 PM	#13
gblowfish Be Kind To Your Pets Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Glorious Independence, MO Casino cash: $17686178 VARSITY	Interesting chasing this stuff down. Boulevard Wheat in a 16 gallon keg runs between $140 and $150/keg, that's about $9 per gallon. Boulevard Tank 7 Farmhouse ale, their signature craft beer is $90 for a 5-gallon keg, or $18 for a gallon. Could it be twice as good for twice the price? Basic Coors Light (which the women all want to drink) is about $8/gallon for an 8-gallon keg. I hate Coors Light and I hate Bud Light too. But women won't drink Boulevard Wheat.
Posts: 40,830

06-02-2014, 01:38 PM	#14
TimBone Mostly Ignored Join Date: Jul 2013 Casino cash: $8499985	The Tank 7 is definitely worth the price bump if they enjoy quality beer. The fact that they're asking for Coors light tells me they know nothing about quality beer. Just buy them the cheap swill and be done with it.
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