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Old 02-11-2018, 09:51 AM  
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Would you trade Justin houston and our 2nd
To the Browns for #4. Houstons cap savings would be 20 mil.
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Old 02-24-2018, 09:20 AM   #121
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Old 02-24-2018, 09:37 AM   #122
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$13 million in dead money if you trade Houston.

Not happening.
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Old 02-24-2018, 10:42 AM   #123
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To the Browns for #4. Houstons cap savings would be 20 mil.


Yes. Draft the best CB out there.
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Old 02-24-2018, 12:43 PM   #124
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Next up Justin houston
This is just as stupid now as it was then.
We don't clear up $20M in cap space. We end up with almost $8M in cap space. Then that would have to be reinvested to replace him. The Browns will never give up the #4 for this insanity anyway.
Just let it go.
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Old 02-24-2018, 12:48 PM   #125
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This trade would have made more sense to me than Marcus Peters. At least Houston is in a spot where he's underperforming and costing us a ton of money.
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Old 02-24-2018, 01:12 PM   #126
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I would do this in a second, since I don't think Houston is an impact player anymore.

But Dorsey probably feels the same way and is definitely not going to trade a top 5 pick when his cupboard is so bare, for a declining player.
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Old 02-24-2018, 02:07 PM   #127
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This trade would have made more sense to me than Marcus Peters. At least Houston is in a spot where he's underperforming and costing us a ton of money.
The Justin Houston issue sucks.

The Chiefs are trapped into his monsterous contract. He's being horribly overpaid for something he did in 2014 and hasn't done a whole hell of a lot since, let's be honest.

And I get that being an OLB isn't just about sacks. But he's also not being paid $100M for being a quality run stuffer who sets the edge on his side, either. For what he's being paid, Houston needs to avg about a sack/game. 21 sacks in 3 yrs since his contract extension. And yes he was inj and didn't play, but you can't be productive if you're not on the field.

What sucks even more, is that I think Justin Houston is declining. Could be due to his knee, I dont know what the excuse is. But his production is dropping. It'd be sure nice if Dee Ford was worth a shit.
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Old 02-24-2018, 02:09 PM   #128
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Yep, don't really care anymore. Trade anyone not named Berry, or Mahomes, and just play for 2020.
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Old 02-25-2018, 11:17 AM   #129
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If you could offload him now for a 1st this year I would do it. Saves you 8 mill. JH is done, guy isn't the same after injury plus way overpaid. I agree, makes more sense tome to do this than MP trade. I won't be surprised if this isn't still on the table.
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If you could offload him now for a 1st this year I would do it. Saves you 8 mill. JH is done, guy isn't the same after injury plus way overpaid. I agree, makes more sense tome to do this than MP trade. I won't be surprised if this isn't still on the table.
Nobody is going to give up a first for a player who’s “done”
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Old 02-25-2018, 11:23 AM   #131
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Old 02-25-2018, 11:24 AM   #132
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Nobody is going to give up a first for a player who’s “done”
Probably right but there's always exceptions out there. Many did't think we would have gotten as much for AS. Anyway maybe its not a 1st, maybe a 2nd idk but I don't think its outrageous to move him.
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Yep, don't really care anymore. Trade anyone not named Berry, or Mahomes, and just play for 2020.
Well better postpone the party.

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Be crazy to think the organization thinks he is ready and capable of playing the QB position. I am anxious to see Mahomes rip through the league.
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Probably right but there's always exceptions out there. Many did't think we would have gotten as much for AS. Anyway maybe its not a 1st, maybe a 2nd idk but I don't think its outrageous to move him.
I don’t think you could get a 3rd or maybe anything for him. They’d be Osweilering his contract for us.
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Houston is not done, the dude has zero help and a ****ing dumbass defensive coordinator who drops him back into coverage. The guy should be rushing the passer 100% of the time.
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