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Old 08-09-2010, 06:06 PM   #5701
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Old 08-15-2010, 09:20 PM   #5703
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I haven't watched WWE programming since "Bryan Daniel" was fired. Now that he's back I might watch again. Especially since I'm starting a collaborative writing project with a poet and a lyric essayist here in Tuscaloosa that will look at pro wrestling year-by-year since '86.
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Old 08-15-2010, 09:43 PM   #5704
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And the Nexus guys lost, way to book an angle there.
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Old 08-15-2010, 11:32 PM   #5705
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Old 08-16-2010, 01:25 AM   #5706
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And the Nexus guys lost, way to book an angle there.
No way were they going to avoid being thrown to the buzzsaw of BRUSF YO MOUF WIT COGATE
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Old 08-16-2010, 07:30 AM   #5707
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I watched a short youtube clip and Dragon was put over bigtime, which is good. It's good that he was rewarded for being the bullshit fall guy when USA got all butthurt over the "non-PG" violence during the first Nexus beatdown.

It warmed my heart to hear Taz calling for the cattle mutilation during the match. It's also very telling that the E is letting Dragon use the crossface.
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:13 PM   #5708
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:19 PM   #5709
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Good things from it:
1. Alberto Del Rio doing his own thing during a match, like it wasn't even happening. That owned pretty damn hard.
2. CM Punk promo also owned.
3. WWE finally did the ending they should of done at Summerslam.
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Old 08-30-2010, 09:35 PM   #5710
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Unfortunately they spent 2 hours cutting NXT's balls off leading up to that match. A supposedly 'weakened' undertaker was beating them 5 on 1 until Kane helped, or did whatever was done when the lights were out. (That whole segment was just brutally bad).

I haven't watched smackdown in months, so it was good to see Punk, but damn that segment seemed to drag on forever. The part with the Austin music was great, though. Laughed my ass off.

I'm still trying to figure out what they're doing with Danielson. I mean, I know what they're doing, they're going to give him Miz's US title while Miz goes up to the main event, but beyond Summerslam, they haven't done much to build him as a challenger. You'd think they could let him not get outsmarted by Miz some week or another. The only time he's gotten any shots in on Miz was after Cena laid him out. He's still losing every match they put him, for whatever reason. Sometimes I wonder how fresh it might feel to bring back the idea of a badass shoot-style wrestler a la Benoit (yeah, yeah, I know...) or Malenko from the WCW days. Somebody who can overcome the size disadvantage that they seem to go out of their way to harp by just being nasty in the ring. But I know what the odds of that are.

The thing that stands out the most right now is just how little they actually have. You see Rock and Austin and Michaels and even HHH (who I wouldn't mind never seeing again, frankly...) and it's clear how none of the guys on the roster are really stars of any magnitude. Even Cena seemed second rate tonight. The way they've booked for the last few years has killed everything. Wins don't matter, booking is all even-steven (superCena excluded), and we're stuck with the same boring feuds over and over. The best guys (Jericho in particular) are never given real title pushes, they're treated like jokes and held just above the mid-card. Too much entertainment, not enough sports. Sigh.
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:48 AM   #5711
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I'm still trying to figure out what they're doing with Danielson. I mean, I know what they're doing, they're going to give him Miz's US title while Miz goes up to the main event, but beyond Summerslam, they haven't done much to build him as a challenger. You'd think they could let him not get outsmarted by Miz some week or another. The only time he's gotten any shots in on Miz was after Cena laid him out. He's still losing every match they put him, for whatever reason. Sometimes I wonder how fresh it might feel to bring back the idea of a badass shoot-style wrestler a la Benoit (yeah, yeah, I know...) or Malenko from the WCW days. Somebody who can overcome the size disadvantage that they seem to go out of their way to harp by just being nasty in the ring. But I know what the odds of that are.
The Miz/Dragon booking is puzzling at times. Obviously they are building to Dragon taking the strap off of him as the payoff. But at the same time, they are doing the patented Vince move of "you made your name elsewhere so you will basically look like a bitch for the better part of a year so my ego can be massaged". At least for the most part Dragon isn't losing cleanly to inferior competition, it's usually through Miz-erference.

The Benoit comparisons are obvious, with Dragon using the crossface as his finisher, although I wish he would use cattle mutilation too. His main draw in the indies was that he had like 729 finishing moves, but I know WWE likes to book guys to have just one finisher, two if you are super special.

Hopefully Low Ki wins season 2 of NXT (I am not calling him Kaval). That will put another small asskicker in WWE. I have been watching 2003 Era Low Ki from ROH and holy shit he would just destroy people.
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:53 AM   #5712
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The Miz/Dragon booking is puzzling at times. Obviously they are building to Dragon taking the strap off of him as the payoff. But at the same time, they are doing the patented Vince move of "you made your name elsewhere so you will basically look like a bitch for the better part of a year so my ego can be massaged". At least for the most part Dragon isn't losing cleanly to inferior competition, it's usually through Miz-erference.

The Benoit comparisons are obvious, with Dragon using the crossface as his finisher, although I wish he would use cattle mutilation too. His main draw in the indies was that he had like 729 finishing moves, but I know WWE likes to book guys to have just one finisher, two if you are super special.

Hopefully Low Ki wins season 2 of NXT (I am not calling him Kaval). That will put another small asskicker in WWE. I have been watching 2003 Era Low Ki from ROH and holy shit he would just destroy people.
Low Ki is on NXT? Man, I'm out of the loop big time.
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Old 08-31-2010, 11:17 AM   #5713
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Low Ki is on NXT? Man, I'm out of the loop big time.
Yeah, I haven't watched this season, but I think I might watch the finale tonight. As I understand it, they've basically did what they did with Danielson during the first season, and play up how he's a 10-year indy vet and then have him lose to everybody (although not to the extent of losing bryan suffered...), but he's so clearly better than everybody on the show that the fans are behind him. Which is bigger this time since they have fan voting supposedly in the mix (storyline bs I'm sure).

His pros are Layla and Michelle McCool. Seriously. They did everything they possibly could to bury the guy.

Anyway, yeah, he and danielson both have to deal with the fact that they aren't homegrown talent. And they're short, obviously. It's a shame vince can't get past that, because either or both of those guys could be huge stars if they weren't booked like hornswaggle.
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Old 08-31-2010, 12:08 PM   #5714
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Yeah, I haven't watched this season, but I think I might watch the finale tonight. As I understand it, they've basically did what they did with Danielson during the first season, and play up how he's a 10-year indy vet and then have him lose to everybody (although not to the extent of losing bryan suffered...), but he's so clearly better than everybody on the show that the fans are behind him. Which is bigger this time since they have fan voting supposedly in the mix (storyline bs I'm sure).

His pros are Layla and Michelle McCool. Seriously. They did everything they possibly could to bury the guy.

Anyway, yeah, he and danielson both have to deal with the fact that they aren't homegrown talent. And they're short, obviously. It's a shame vince can't get past that, because either or both of those guys could be huge stars if they weren't booked like hornswaggle.
Yeah, they jobbed Ki out a few times but only about half as bad as Dragon. With Dragon, they were just doing that to set up the Michael Cole encounters.

It's telling that the top performers on each season were Indy-bred guys in Danielson and Ki. Both know how to work a nice story-driven match and also know how to speak (Dragon moreso than Ki). The only other guy even close in my opinion is Wade Barrett.

If Vince has problems with Dragon's size, he just needs to watch his series with Morishima. He does quite well against the big boys.
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With Dragon, they were just doing that to set up the Michael Cole encounters.
That's something that has yet to make any sense to me, the Michael Cole bit. It was entertaining when he was working on NXT (Cole, I mean), but it's really bizarre to hear the lead announcer of Raw have a hard on for a guy. They haven't done anything to explain where the beef comes from, other than making it sound like Cole hates internet geeks. He's also set himself up as Miz's cheerleader, but he has no storyline connection to the guy. It's just...weird. And it probably makes zero sense to most of the Raw audience, who hasn't watched a second of NXT.
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