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**Iowanian** · 10-05-2011, 02:30 PM

How is this not a topic of discussion on a KC message board?

Earthling · 10-06-2011, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MIAdragon

I dont understand why the canceled the amber alert so quickly??

I thought that was strange too.

Demonpenz · 10-06-2011, 09:55 AM

Amber alerts just make Kidnappers never bring the baby out in public

Dayze · 10-06-2011, 10:00 AM

I think they canceled the alert early becuase it was only intended as a tool to use at the very early stages of the abduction etc. Or, something to that effect etc. I remember hearing something on the news about why it was canceled so early etc

**Iowanian** · 10-06-2011, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Pittsie

Hey, sorry to interrupt your Taken/Ransom revenge fantasies with a bit of gallows humor.

Hopefully the kid is returned safely.

I don't see that is what I've done in this thread at all. I've participated in discussion about this incident and how badly it would suck for the parents.

You can feel free to stuff yourself with a roll of rusty barbed wire though.

Rasputin · 10-06-2011, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by trndobrd

And let the guy miss out on 15 years in general population as a known child killer. No way.

Nope, going disagree. He doesn't deserve the air we breath. The quicker he can spend eternity in HELL the better. He can join Hitler in shoving a pineapple up his ass.

ForeverChiefs58 · 10-06-2011, 10:53 AM

KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) — The parents of a missing 10-month-old Kansas City girl made a tearful plea for the child's safe return Wednesday, nearly two days after she disappeared, begging her abductor to drop her off someplace safe.

Jeremy Irwin and Deborah Bradley, speaking to the media for the first time since their daughter Lisa went missing, asked the public to call police with even the smallest piece of information. The child was last seen in her crib Monday night, and police have no solid leads in the case.

"Please drop her off anywhere," Jeremy Irwin said calmly during a brief news conference at a makeshift police command center about a half-mile from their home. "We don't care. Somewhere safe so she can come home."

Clutching a purple Barney doll that presumably belonged to her daughter, Bradley tearfully begged for the child's return, saying: "We just want our baby back." The couple promised they'd ask no questions.

The parents aren't suspects in the case, police said.

Capt. Steve Young said investigators have no new leads despite repeated searches of nearby woods and homes — and the frustration was evident.

"Everything we've thought of doing we've probably done two or three times," he said. "Over 300 law enforcement officers have been involved. They've walked a wooded area three times in shoulder-to-shoulder searches, taken dogs in three times — different dogs each time — and none of those led us anywhere."

He said investigators also have done 300 consensual knock-and-talks, in which officers knocked on doors and asked if they could search the homes. Young said dozens of tips have come in, but many have produced nothing.

Kansas City police spokesman Darin Snapp said a report that a neighbor saw a man in the neighborhood carrying a baby overnight Tuesday "went nowhere."

The child was last seen around 10:30 p.m. Monday when her mother checked on her in her crib. Her father discovered her missing about five hours later, when he got home from a late-night shift at work.

Police have said they are investigating the possibility that someone entered the home through a front window and snatched the baby, but they have not pointed to any sign of forced entry.

Earlier Wednesday, FBI agents clad in white, plastic suits used search dogs as they went into the family's home, a light-green ranch-style home in a cozy neighborhood along a winding street. Young said the suits were to hide the agents' scent from the dogs so they could get original scents of the girl.

An FBI spokeswoman acknowledged the agency was committing significant resources to the search, but declined to discuss any details of the investigation.

Young said investigators interviewed the girl's parents until about 10:30 p.m. Tuesday, but did not take them into custody.

"They were cooperative, but at this point we have next to nothing to go on," he said.

Police said Lisa has blue eyes and blonde hair, is 30 inches tall and weighs around 28 pounds. She was last seen wearing purple shorts and a purple shirt with pictures of white kittens.

Several police cars were parked along the quiet tree-lined street Wednesday where the family's home is located, an American flag flying in their front yard. Media trucks also were stationed nearby as children returned from school.

About a half dozen law enforcement officers appeared to be canvassing neighbors next door and across the street, coming in and out of their homes and congregating in their front yards. Police also scoured roads, a nearby apartment complex and a wooded area on at least four all-terrain vehicles.

Thelma Beagley, 77, a neighbor, stood in her driveway as detectives searched the family's one-story home. Police also cordoned off neighboring homes with yellow caution tape.

Beagley, whose driveway was covered with children's chalk drawings, said she would periodically see Lisa and her mother out in the yard with another neighbor who also has young children.

"Every so often they would bring little Lisa over so I could see her," Beagley said. "She was just a typical little baby. Kind of bubbly."

Beagley said the child's mother and father seemed to be wonderful parents.

The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children was doing all it could to assist, said center president Ernie Allen.

Allen was cautiously hopeful that Lisa would be found, saying that of the 278 infant abductions nationwide over the past 28 years, only 12 of those children didn't come home safely.

An Amber Alert was issued Tuesday morning but called off after 12 hours. Police said it was a formality because the alerts are designed to raise awareness early in an investigation.

tooge · 10-06-2011, 10:55 AM

agreed, but everyone in the community should get to shove a pineapple up his ass first.

tooge · 10-06-2011, 10:58 AM

I'm guessing the perp is someone that either knows the family or has cased them out. Mom checks baby at 10ish, dad gets home about 5ish. Bastard figured there are a few oportunities in that time frame. This is why everyone should have a dog, and everyone should have a gun.

Otter · 10-06-2011, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

I saw an interview with the parents this morning. Sometimes you watch one of those and see false tears and something doesn't sound right, but I believe these people.

Has the local news given any tips or hints at what they think happened? what I saw sounds like some asshole slipped in through a window, took their baby and 3 cell phones. Odd.

If any of those cell phones are powered on there's no reason the service provider couldn't track its (the cell phone) position down to within a 1/4 mile radius or so.

**Iowanian** · 10-06-2011, 11:03 AM

They should probably look at her facebook.

Does she have a bazillion pics of the kid, is her account just to friends, friends of friends or open for the world to see. In that case, maybe look back and see if they could run down an IP of someone who spent signficant time looking at pics of her kids.....never know.

If they have other kids in the home, it almost would have to be someone they know, an acquaintance of someone they know, or someone they're around with that baby.

Alot of times, aren't these crimes committed by a woman who has recently lost a baby or had a miscarriage?

Some hobo doesn't walk down a neighborhood street, randomly pick a window and take a baby.

**Iowanian** · 10-06-2011, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter

If any of those cell phones are powered on there's no reason the service provider couldn't track its (the cell phone) position down to within a 1/4 mile radius or so.

I was thinking about that.....hopefully they've got something like "Find my droid".

some of those programs allow the gps to be turned on remotely, even if the phone is turned off and will show you a dot on google maps approximately where the phone is located.

I can't imagine 300 KC law enforcement people wouldn't have already thought of those kind of things though.

tooge · 10-06-2011, 11:09 AM

The cell phone thing is a dead givaway. There is something on the cell phones the perp doesn't want anyone to see obviously. Therefore, either there was communication with the parent by one of these phones, or there are pics on the phone of the perp. I'm certain the parents have met the person that took the baby

ModSocks · 10-06-2011, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Iowanian

They should probably look at her facebook.

Does she have a bazillion pics of the kid, is her account just to friends, friends of friends or open for the world to see. In that case, maybe look back and see if they could run down an IP of someone who spent signficant time looking at pics of her kids.....never know.

Good point. This clearly isn't a random abduction. There has to be a trail somewhere.

**Lzen** · 10-06-2011, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Otter

If any of those cell phones are powered on there's no reason the service provider couldn't track its (the cell phone) position down to within a 1/4 mile radius or so.

I'm sure that was the first thing they tried.

**The Franchise** · 10-06-2011, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by tooge

This is why everyone should have a dog, and everyone should have a gun.

I've got the most annoying ****ing dog. Barks anytime there is a doorbell or a knock at the door.....but that ****ing thing would be a lifesaver in this situation. My dog would have went apeshit if someone opened my daughters window.

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10-06-2011, 10:53 AM	#66
ForeverChiefs58 MVP Join Date: Mar 2009 Casino cash: $3015326	KANSAS CITY, Mo. (AP) — The parents of a missing 10-month-old Kansas City girl made a tearful plea for the child's safe return Wednesday, nearly two days after she disappeared, begging her abductor to drop her off someplace safe. Jeremy Irwin and Deborah Bradley, speaking to the media for the first time since their daughter Lisa went missing, asked the public to call police with even the smallest piece of information. The child was last seen in her crib Monday night, and police have no solid leads in the case. "Please drop her off anywhere," Jeremy Irwin said calmly during a brief news conference at a makeshift police command center about a half-mile from their home. "We don't care. Somewhere safe so she can come home." Clutching a purple Barney doll that presumably belonged to her daughter, Bradley tearfully begged for the child's return, saying: "We just want our baby back." The couple promised they'd ask no questions. The parents aren't suspects in the case, police said. Capt. Steve Young said investigators have no new leads despite repeated searches of nearby woods and homes — and the frustration was evident. "Everything we've thought of doing we've probably done two or three times," he said. "Over 300 law enforcement officers have been involved. They've walked a wooded area three times in shoulder-to-shoulder searches, taken dogs in three times — different dogs each time — and none of those led us anywhere." He said investigators also have done 300 consensual knock-and-talks, in which officers knocked on doors and asked if they could search the homes. Young said dozens of tips have come in, but many have produced nothing. Kansas City police spokesman Darin Snapp said a report that a neighbor saw a man in the neighborhood carrying a baby overnight Tuesday "went nowhere." The child was last seen around 10:30 p.m. Monday when her mother checked on her in her crib. Her father discovered her missing about five hours later, when he got home from a late-night shift at work. Police have said they are investigating the possibility that someone entered the home through a front window and snatched the baby, but they have not pointed to any sign of forced entry. Earlier Wednesday, FBI agents clad in white, plastic suits used search dogs as they went into the family's home, a light-green ranch-style home in a cozy neighborhood along a winding street. Young said the suits were to hide the agents' scent from the dogs so they could get original scents of the girl. An FBI spokeswoman acknowledged the agency was committing significant resources to the search, but declined to discuss any details of the investigation. Young said investigators interviewed the girl's parents until about 10:30 p.m. Tuesday, but did not take them into custody. "They were cooperative, but at this point we have next to nothing to go on," he said. Police said Lisa has blue eyes and blonde hair, is 30 inches tall and weighs around 28 pounds. She was last seen wearing purple shorts and a purple shirt with pictures of white kittens. Several police cars were parked along the quiet tree-lined street Wednesday where the family's home is located, an American flag flying in their front yard. Media trucks also were stationed nearby as children returned from school. About a half dozen law enforcement officers appeared to be canvassing neighbors next door and across the street, coming in and out of their homes and congregating in their front yards. Police also scoured roads, a nearby apartment complex and a wooded area on at least four all-terrain vehicles. Thelma Beagley, 77, a neighbor, stood in her driveway as detectives searched the family's one-story home. Police also cordoned off neighboring homes with yellow caution tape. Beagley, whose driveway was covered with children's chalk drawings, said she would periodically see Lisa and her mother out in the yard with another neighbor who also has young children. "Every so often they would bring little Lisa over so I could see her," Beagley said. "She was just a typical little baby. Kind of bubbly." Beagley said the child's mother and father seemed to be wonderful parents. The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children was doing all it could to assist, said center president Ernie Allen. Allen was cautiously hopeful that Lisa would be found, saying that of the 278 infant abductions nationwide over the past 28 years, only 12 of those children didn't come home safely. An Amber Alert was issued Tuesday morning but called off after 12 hours. Police said it was a formality because the alerts are designed to raise awareness early in an investigation.
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10-06-2011, 10:55 AM	#67
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10-06-2011, 10:58 AM	#68
tooge MVP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Liberty, MO Casino cash: $4014112	I'm guessing the perp is someone that either knows the family or has cased them out. Mom checks baby at 10ish, dad gets home about 5ish. Bastard figured there are a few oportunities in that time frame. This is why everyone should have a dog, and everyone should have a gun.
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10-06-2011, 11:03 AM	#70
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $4818454	They should probably look at her facebook. Does she have a bazillion pics of the kid, is her account just to friends, friends of friends or open for the world to see. In that case, maybe look back and see if they could run down an IP of someone who spent signficant time looking at pics of her kids.....never know. If they have other kids in the home, it almost would have to be someone they know, an acquaintance of someone they know, or someone they're around with that baby. Alot of times, aren't these crimes committed by a woman who has recently lost a baby or had a miscarriage? Some hobo doesn't walk down a neighborhood street, randomly pick a window and take a baby.
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10-06-2011, 11:09 AM	#72
tooge MVP Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Liberty, MO Casino cash: $4014112	The cell phone thing is a dead givaway. There is something on the cell phones the perp doesn't want anyone to see obviously. Therefore, either there was communication with the parent by one of these phones, or there are pics on the phone of the perp. I'm certain the parents have met the person that took the baby
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