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Old 07-28-2013, 01:16 PM  
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Old 07-29-2013, 07:23 PM   #226
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It wasn't just turnovers, though.

CB2 couldn't cover anyone and it's absolutely possible that we didn't upgrade much (if at all) at that spot.
Eric Berry continues to struggle in coverage
Our depth at linebacker isn't very good.
Dante Robinson got burnt all year last year (even Dexter McCluster beat him a bunch of times) and he is penciled in to play a lot of time.
Our wide receivers (outside of Bowe) arent especially good.
Our offensive line will have at least 2 new starters
Outside of Charles, our running backs are somewhat suspect
Andy Reid is a pass first coach that wants to throw the ball 600+ times and we traded for a QB that hasn't ever thrown more than 445 passes in a season and has a total of 81 passing touchdowns in 75 career starts.
Our defensive line isn't a bunch of attacking guys, they are run stoppers that don't move especially well (outside of Poe) and the position group as a whole is in discussion for weakest unit on the team.

Outside of the personnel question marks, we are installing a brand new offense and defense, blocking schemes, philosophies and are basically starting from scratch on both sides of the ball.

I know that limiting turnovers will cure a lot of this teams problems, but there are just too many things that need to fall into place for this team to be branded "10 win floor" just yet.
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Old 07-29-2013, 07:25 PM   #227
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No, there isn't.

The Chiefs have less questions than about 20 teams in the league.

They're not top tier, but there's no reason why they shouldn't be in every game and get ten wins.
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Old 07-29-2013, 07:42 PM   #228
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I know that limiting turnovers will cure a lot of this teams problems, but there are just too many things that need to fall into place for this team to be branded "10 win floor" just yet.
Agree to disagree.

If this team can't beat the Brown, Jags, Bills, plus the Raiders and Chargers at least once, then you might be right.

But that's five wins, right there. The Eagles certainly don't scare anyone nor do the Titans.

So if they win those seven games (which I think is likely), all they need is three more wins.
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Old 07-29-2013, 07:43 PM   #229
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**** being a "homer". It's about the coaching staff, players and logic.
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Old 07-29-2013, 07:51 PM   #230
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I predicted 11 wins after the Reid hire, free agency and draft. I'm sticking with that. The team was overall pretty good in terms of talent, but had dreadful coaching, offensive play calling and QB play. They've made drastic improvements in all three areas this off season. It's not a homer view, it's a logical view.
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:17 PM   #231
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:54 PM   #232
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I've already provided enough for your dumbass.

Center isn't guard. Ramirez wasn't the starting center. He's started 25 games in six seasons. He's far from a sure thing.

The only sure thing in this thread is that you'll say stupid shit.
The Broncos fans I know IRL were ecstatic to be getting Ramirez off the field in favor of Vasquez.

All of the sudden he's going to step in and replace a guy that's started from day 1 in the NFL and has been the leader of SB winning O-lines. Now they're acting like he's been a boss all along.

Koppens a big time loss.

Not against us, mind you (as this team can't generate an interior rush to save its life), but it could very easily cost them a game along the way.
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:55 PM   #233
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There's just so many "ifs" this year.
If Alex is better than Cassel. If Fisher is better than Winston. If Reid is better than Crennel. If Dorsey is better than Pioli. I would say all of those ifs went in a positive direction.
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:04 PM   #234
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If Alex is better than Cassel. If Fisher is better than Winston. If Reid is better than Crennel. If Dorsey is better than Pioli. I would say all of those ifs went in a positive direction.
The only ? there is Fish. Then again he can't be worse than Winston. And we now have a QB that doesn't shit his pants at the first sign of a possible pass rush.
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:05 PM   #235
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The Broncos fans I know IRL were ecstatic to be getting Ramirez off the field in favor of Vasquez.

All of the sudden he's going to step in and replace a guy that's started from day 1 in the NFL and has been the leader of SB winning O-lines. Now they're acting like he's been a boss all along.

Koppens a big time loss.

Not against us, mind you (as this team can't generate an interior rush to save its life), but it could very easily cost them a game along the way.
Yeah, especially since we gave up so much to get Koppen.

No, wait. The Patriots cut him. They must be out of their minds to cut "a guy that's started from day 1 in the NFL and has been the leader of SB winning O-lines."
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The only ? there is Fish. Then again he can't be worse than Winston. And we now have a QB that doesn't shit his pants at the first sign of a possible pass rush.
Can't be worse than Winston?

Haha. Winston is a top 5 right tackle in this league when healthy. Let's not shit on the guy just yet.

We don't have a QB that shits his pants under pressure?

WHAT?

Alex Smith is one of the most sacked quarterbacks in the NFL in attempts per sack.

If not, the worst.
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Old 07-29-2013, 09:17 PM   #237
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Yeah, especially since we gave up so much to get Koppen.

No, wait. The Patriots cut him. They must be out of their minds to cut "a guy that's started from day 1 in the NFL and has been the leader of SB winning O-lines."
Who cares what you gave up to get him? How is that relevant?

It's a big loss because the dropoff from him (and JD Walton) to Manny Ramirez is pretty sizable.
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Who cares what you gave up to get him? How is that relevant?

It's a big loss because the dropoff from him (and JD Walton) to Manny Ramirez is pretty sizable.
Yeah, that wasn't the point. The point is that there's a reason he got cut from the Pats and was going to retire. The reason is that he's old and not as good as he used to be.

In the end, Ramirez & Vasquez is better than Koppen & Ramirez.
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How about Koppen and Vasquez?

Cmon.
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In the end, Ramirez & Vasquez is better than Koppen & Ramirez.
Complete speculation.

You're telling us that plugging in a guard that's started for a mere 25 games (out of 96 eligible) is better than a former All Pro, two time winning Super Bowl winning center?

Seriously?
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