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Old 11-30-2004, 06:06 PM  
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Its all about Tackling...

One of the biggest things that pisses me off about this defense is the way our guys tackle. Tackling around the shoulder pads being my number one bitch. Followed by the failed highlight reel hits where our guys leave his feet for the big hit only to bounce off the offensive player.

I looked around at some stats and found the following info.

First off in the AFCW our 3 enemies have 3 guys each with more tackles than our leader (Fujita) With a 4th guy right on his heels.

Den.
Al Wilson 69 tackles
Dj Williams 65
Champ 60
Kennedy 57

Oakland
Danny Clark 87
Ray Buchannon 67
Marques Anderson 60
Charles Woodson 58

San Diego
Donnie Edwards 92
Terrance Kiel 65
Randall Godfrey 60
Jerry Wilson 57

KC
Fuji 59
Wesley 48
Woods 41
Warfield 41

I also looked up total tackles in the AFC.

Buffalo 791, Miami 784, New England 787, Jets 760

B'more 795, Cinci 816, Cleveland 796, Pitts. 642

Houston 737, Indy 802, Jax 710, Tenn. 716

Denver 670, Oak. 795, San Diego 696, KC 629

The only team close to our low number of tackles is Pitts. Who is #1 in the AFC in the Yds/gm. Interestingly Indy leads the AFC in yds given up but has the 2nd most tackles.

Bottom line we suck at tackling.
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:08 PM   #2
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How hard is it really to tackle??? These guys have been playing football for a long time, it is the simplest fundamentals, ****ing wrap up, give them a ****ing hug and htey won't move. They still continue to push and shove most of the time.
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:11 PM   #3
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hey you try to tackle top tier backs like mike pittman
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:11 PM   #4
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How hard is it really to tackle??? These guys have been playing football for a long time, it is the simplest fundamentals, ****ing wrap up, give them a ****ing hug and htey won't move. They still continue to push and shove most of the time.
Unfortunately this is the way it is done.
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:13 PM   #5
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tackle requires alittle bit of an attitude too, something (Along with balls) our defense lacks
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:13 PM   #6
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Arm tackling is the only way our reeruns know how, if you're ass isn't on the ground with the offensive player, you aren't tackling.
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:14 PM   #7
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We were always taught to tackle low...a guy can't run with your arms around his legs. But that was back when the ball was filled with feathers so maybe things have changed.
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:16 PM   #8
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We were always taught to tackle low...a guy can't run with your arms around his legs. But that was back when the ball was filled with feathers so maybe things have changed.
IIRC from the history books didn't you wear leather helmets or did you not have helmets?
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:16 PM   #9
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It's also about not biting on EVERY DANG PLAY FAKE any team uses. Our DBs never saw a pump-fake they couldn't take a shark-sized bite out of. The LBs too, I've never seen anything like it.
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:17 PM   #10
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Unfortunately this is the way it is done.
Hey..that picture was of a 5 yard loss!
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:20 PM   #11
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Why do we need guys who tackle the ball carrier, we have Mitchell. Just ask GoChiefs, ZachKC and a few select others on this BB.

After all, that will come in time when our players get more experence.
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:20 PM   #12
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Kawika Mitchell is the master of the chiefs art of "tackling".
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:20 PM   #13
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Hey..that picture was of a 5 yard loss!
Then Kawika must of hit him about 20 yds behind the line of scrimmage.
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Old 11-30-2004, 06:23 PM   #14
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It's also about not biting on EVERY DANG PLAY FAKE any team uses. Our DBs never saw a pump-fake they couldn't take a shark-sized bite out of. The LBs too, I've never seen anything like it.
Don't forget the DE biting on every misdirection play, bootleg, reverse etc.

Against SD, they burned us not once, not twice, but thrice on misdirection end arrounds for big gainers.

Each and every time, our DE who has responsibility for containment is flowing with the line of scrimage leaving nothing but acres and acres of arrowhead turf for the runner to run with.

This is chit they teach to high schoolers and they cannot figure it out they aren't ever going to get it. It is just plain fuggin lazyness for an NFL Dlineman to play that way.

The coaches probably figure, fug, they should already know that chit, I don't get paid to waste time teaching basic HS level fundamentals to professional ball players, fug, they would be offended if I so much as said anything. Fug those chit heads fire em all.
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