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Old 05-11-2014, 11:50 AM  
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Jeff Flanagan: "Tyler Bray slow to grasp pro system"
http://msn.foxsports.com/kansas-city...-murray-051014

In a puff piece on Aaron Murray, an interesting tidbit:

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The Chiefs already have starter Alex Smith, backup Chase Daniel and developmental quarterback Tyler Bray.

The Chiefs could save $1.4 million if they were to release Daniel. Bray, though, seems the most vulnerable. Although the Chiefs love his arm strength, he was slow to grasp the pro system.

Murray likely won't have those issues since he already has played in a pro passing system at Georgia.
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Old 05-12-2014, 05:47 PM   #166
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Hence the "one or two games" part. A backup QB should give you a chance to win one or two games.
And you think a team that basically went 9-0 with little help from the QB couldn't win 2 games with Murray or Bray?
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Old 05-12-2014, 06:08 PM   #167
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If it was me I'd cut Daniel and keep Bray and Murray both. I have good reasons for that. The first being that Chase Daniel is a shitty worthless piece of hot smoking litter. The second being that if Alex Smith goes down, we're ****ed anyway so we might as well have 2 young QBs behind him that we can test.
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Old 05-12-2014, 06:11 PM   #168
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If it was me I'd cut Daniel and keep Bray and Murray both. I have good reasons for that. The first being that Chase Daniel is a shitty worthless piece of hot smoking litter. The second being that if Alex Smith goes down, we're ****ed anyway so we might as well have 2 young QBs behind him that we can test.
viable point

The only thing would be that if by some miracle we actually improve after losing talent and Alex Smith just misses a game or 2. Losing those games during a final push for a playoff spot would really hurt.
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Old 05-12-2014, 06:31 PM   #169
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viable point

The only thing would be that if by some miracle we actually improve after losing talent and Alex Smith just misses a game or 2. Losing those games during a final push for a playoff spot would really hurt.
Yeah but even so, I'd rather have Murray or Bray in there than Daniel. How much worse could they be? I mean, we all saw Daniel for what he is last year. Shitty.
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Old 05-12-2014, 08:36 PM   #170
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Yeah but even so, I'd rather have Murray or Bray in there than Daniel. How much worse could they be? I mean, we all saw Daniel for what he is last year. Shitty.
He, along with 21 other 2nd and 3rd string scrubs, almost beat a team that won a playoff game.
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Old 05-12-2014, 08:37 PM   #171
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And you think a team that basically went 9-0 with little help from the QB couldn't win 2 games with Murray or Bray?
With Murray? Maybe.

With Bray?
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Old 05-13-2014, 05:37 AM   #172
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With Murray? Maybe.

With Bray?
1 or 2 games? I don't see why that would be impossible...

a) hope the defense plays a good game.

b) simplify the hell outta the game plan, run Charles and Davis a bunch and give Bray half the field to read on passing downs, keeping it simple with plenty of short drops and screens... letting him launch it once or twice a half wouldn't hurt either.
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Old 05-13-2014, 05:52 AM   #173
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1 or 2 games? I don't see why that would be impossible...

a) hope the defense plays a good game.

b) simplify the hell outta the game plan, run Charles and Davis a bunch and give Bray half the field to read on passing downs, keeping it simple with plenty of short drops and screens... letting him launch it once or twice a half wouldn't hurt either.
Or you could just play Daniel, run the offense, and win anyway...

Why make wholesale changes to accommodate a guy that really has no future on your team?

Focus on Aaron Murray and forget about Tyler Bray.
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Old 05-13-2014, 10:04 AM   #174
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You will all be riding Bray's sack after the pre-season.
Unless the guy has learned nothing and not progressed at all, it would be dumb as **** to get rid of him.
I like Daniel, but he's all he's ever gonna be.
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Old 05-13-2014, 10:08 AM   #175
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Or you could just play Daniel, run the offense, and win anyway...

Why make wholesale changes to accommodate a guy that really has no future on your team?

Focus on Aaron Murray and forget about Tyler Bray.
You called us winning like 6 games with Smith.
Now we will just "win anyway" with Daniel?....Ok.
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Old 05-13-2014, 10:35 AM   #176
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It wouldn't surprise me if bray gets some "injury" during camp that conveniently puts him on IR
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You called us winning like 6 games with Smith.
Now we will just "win anyway" with Daniel?....Ok.
I'm not allowed to be wrong?

My point was:

If the defense is playing good enough that "any old QB" could win, as someone asserted earlier in the thread, why "simplify" the offense and make changes to get a nobody like Bray in the game when you could play Daniel (or Murray), win anyway, and not have to change anything?
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Or you could just play Daniel, run the offense, and win anyway...
Well yeah, but that would be the logical thing to do. So I don't know why you think this sort of thinking has any place on CP.
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Well yeah, but that would be the logical thing to do. So I don't know why you think this sort of thinking has any place on CP.


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It wouldn't surprise me if bray gets some "injury" during camp that conveniently puts him on IR
That would suck. We need to know if he is coming along. If not, they need to give him the boot. If so, they need to increase his reps.
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