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Been a while since we had a guns n' ammo discussion.


Some of you are AR shooters Im sure. Im looking at a Colt 6920. Will be my first AR. Picked up a Glock this fall and really enjoy shooting it. Any feedback on that weapon?



Anyone else been in a buy/sell/trade mood with hardware?

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Old 10-10-2012, 09:28 PM   #2431
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The gal across the street has a 9mm Glock that looks like new and it has a case with two clips. Her husband pass away a year ago and she's selling stuff off. What's a fair offer?
Anything lower than $300 would be screwing her. Summit sells cop trade-ins for around $400, but those will probably have some holster wear.
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Old 10-10-2012, 09:30 PM   #2432
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All this AR talk has me thinking about getting into it. It will probably be a few months, is there a good site or something where I can read up on the AR platform and figure out what I'd want?
Yeah, this thread.
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Old 10-10-2012, 09:34 PM   #2433
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Yeah, this thread.
Figured as much. 2400 comments is a lot to wade through though. Might try to read through some of it this weekend.
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Old 10-10-2012, 09:35 PM   #2434
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Anything lower than $300 would be screwing her. Summit sells cop trade-ins for around $400, but those will probably have some holster wear.
SAid she bought it from a Christain County Deputy for $500.00. She's the type of gal that will drive a hard bargain. Retired loan officer....she was my loan officer on my home loan. House is paid off now though she might not be so tough. So $500.00 is top dollar?
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Old 10-10-2012, 09:37 PM   #2435
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All this AR talk has me thinking about getting into it. It will probably be a few months, is there a good site or something where I can read up on the AR platform and figure out what I'd want?
www.ar15.com

Tons of AR knowledge. Make sure you read the FAQs first. They've also got great sections on AK's, shotguns, handguns, etc.
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Old 10-10-2012, 09:40 PM   #2436
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SAid she bought it from a Christain County Deputy for $500.00. She's the type of gal that will drive a hard bargain. Retired loan officer....she was my loan officer on my home loan. House is paid off now though she might not be so tough. So $500.00 is top dollar?
You can buy a Glock 17 or 19 (both are 9mm) brand new in the box for around $500.
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I just impulse bought a new G17 for $500, I think new they are up to $600 now without any discounts. Wouldn't pay more than $450 for a used one.
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www.ar15.com

Tons of AR knowledge. Make sure you read the FAQs first. They've also got great sections on AK's, shotguns, handguns, etc.
A great site for information, however as with all other gun sites it has become a flavor of the month fan site. Stick to the technical forums and disregard about 2/3rds of it.
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Old 10-10-2012, 10:10 PM   #2439
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I just impulse bought a new G17 for $500, I think new they are up to $600 now without any discounts. Wouldn't pay more than $450 for a used one.
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Figured as much. 2400 comments is a lot to wade through though. Might try to read through some of it this weekend.
You could focus on my misadventures and learn a lot from my mistakes. I've wasted hundreds of dollars on shit that looked cool that is now buried in my junk drawer. I'm on my third red dot, my third handguard and my third muzzle device. In the junk drawer are a pistol grip flashlight holder that just got in the way when I shot the rifle at the range (around $150), and a couple of bipods. I replaced my original flash suppressor with a compensator, which is kind of silly for an AR since it barely kicks. Looked cool, but made the rifle twice is loud and blasted out that cat piss/ammonia smell sideways which tended to annoy people around me. Ended up replacing it with a different flash suppressor, and I'd have done well to have left the original on it (total money wasted on that about $100). I bought a cheap Bushnell red dot ($80) when I bought the rifle (entry level rifles won't come with sights or optics), then got a sort of mid-range one (Lucid HD7) that was decent, but not great. In hindsight, I should have bypassed the Lucid and saved my money for the totally badass (but very expensive) Trijicon ACOG that I have now. Between the Lucid sight, a magnifier and the mount for the magnifier, I dropped around $350 and it's all in the junk drawer now. I got a nickel boron bolt carrier group that was another big waste of money (around $125) - I reverted to the original one that came with the rifle).

Anyway, after all that, I now have the following additions to my rifle. Some of them are unnecessary, some are more functional and useful than others, but none of them hurt anything.

Sampson Evolution free-float handguard (free floats do not contact the barrel at all and improve accuracy)
Magpul ACS stock which is more comfortable for shooting
Grip Pod combination grip/bipod (sturdy, reliable, used extensively by combat troops)
Trijicon ACOG 4x32 battle scope (again, sturdly, reliable, troop favorite, doesn't need batteries)
Vortex flash hider
Magpul BAD (battery assist device) lever
Magpul trigger guard
Giessele SG3 trigger (excellent trigger upgrade)
Single point sling with mount
Mako pistol grip
Magpul 20 and 30 round magazines

For starting out, I highly recommend Magpul magazines. They seem to be pretty much everybody's favorite. No need to **** with the flash hider. Don't scrimp on optics - I'd get nothing less than an EOTech to start, but they are pricey. Free float rail probably isn't necessary, but you should at least replace the standard handguard with a quad rail so you can mount a grip/bipod. I love the ACS stock, but again, it's not that big of a deal. Leave the bolt carrier group alone. Trigger upgrade was a pain in the ass, but I love love love the new trigger.

Buying the rifle is only half the fun - slowly accessorizing it is a blast, but be smart about it less you end up with a ton of crap you'll wish you'd never bought. In the end, I initially paid around $700 for the rifle. As it sits right now, it's got about $2,000 worth of upgrades on it, purchased over the course of a couple of years, with probably $600 worth of crap that I'll end up selling on eBay if I ever get around to it.
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Old 10-10-2012, 10:24 PM   #2441
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Technically I paid $600 but that included 7 magazines and 200rd of 9mm, Yeah I figured they've come up a bit lately. I miss the days when new ones were about $400 and you could buy used ones all day long for <$250.
Of course that was back when ammo was dirt cheap too.
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You could focus on my misadventures and learn a lot from my mistakes. I've wasted hundreds of dollars on shit that looked cool that is now buried in my junk drawer. I'm on my third red dot, my third handguard and my third muzzle device. In the junk drawer are a pistol grip flashlight holder that just got in the way when I shot the rifle at the range (around $150), and a couple of bipods. I replaced my original flash suppressor with a compensator, which is kind of silly for an AR since it barely kicks. Looked cool, but made the rifle twice is loud and blasted out that cat piss/ammonia smell sideways which tended to annoy people around me. Ended up replacing it with a different flash suppressor, and I'd have done well to have left the original on it (total money wasted on that about $100). I bought a cheap Bushnell red dot ($80) when I bought the rifle (entry level rifles won't come with sights or optics), then got a sort of mid-range one (Lucid HD7) that was decent, but not great. In hindsight, I should have bypassed the Lucid and saved my money for the totally badass (but very expensive) Trijicon ACOG that I have now. Between the Lucid sight, a magnifier and the mount for the magnifier, I dropped around $350 and it's all in the junk drawer now. I got a nickel boron bolt carrier group that was another big waste of money (around $125) - I reverted to the original one that came with the rifle).

Anyway, after all that, I now have the following additions to my rifle. Some of them are unnecessary, some are more functional and useful than others, but none of them hurt anything.

Sampson Evolution free-float handguard (free floats do not contact the barrel at all and improve accuracy)
Magpul ACS stock which is more comfortable for shooting
Grip Pod combination grip/bipod (sturdy, reliable, used extensively by combat troops)
Trijicon ACOG 4x32 battle scope (again, sturdly, reliable, troop favorite, doesn't need batteries)
Vortex flash hider
Magpul BAD (battery assist device) lever
Magpul trigger guard
Giessele SG3 trigger (excellent trigger upgrade)
Single point sling with mount
Mako pistol grip
Magpul 20 and 30 round magazines

For starting out, I highly recommend Magpul magazines. They seem to be pretty much everybody's favorite. No need to **** with the flash hider. Don't scrimp on optics - I'd get nothing less than an EOTech to start, but they are pricey. Free float rail probably isn't necessary, but you should at least replace the standard handguard with a quad rail so you can mount a grip/bipod. I love the ACS stock, but again, it's not that big of a deal. Leave the bolt carrier group alone. Trigger upgrade was a pain in the ass, but I love love love the new trigger.

Buying the rifle is only half the fun - slowly accessorizing it is a blast, but be smart about it less you end up with a ton of crap you'll wish you'd never bought. In the end, I initially paid around $700 for the rifle. As it sits right now, it's got about $2,000 worth of upgrades on it, purchased over the course of a couple of years, with probably $600 worth of crap that I'll end up selling on eBay if I ever get around to it.
I remember suggesting the ACOG to you when you first started in on the AR! They do rock!
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I remember suggesting the ACOG to you when you first started in on the AR! They do rock!
I would have done well to listen to you about the ACOG and Pants about the Grip Pod. Oh well, live and learn. It's not like I didn't have fun!
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Technically I paid $600 but that included 7 magazines and 200rd of 9mm, Yeah I figured they've come up a bit lately. I miss the days when new ones were about $400 and you could buy used ones all day long for <$250.
Of course that was back when ammo was dirt cheap too.
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I hear ya. I bought my Glock 19 for around $400...then sold it for $450 a few years later. The guy thought I gave him a smoking deal. Same with my Colt AR, I bought it for $700 and sold it for $825. Now everything I want seems to be $1000 or higher.
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