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Old 09-23-2018, 08:30 AM  
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Earl Thomas a longshot to be a Chief
They just said on ESPN we were on the list of teams that he could be dealt to.
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Old 09-24-2018, 01:11 PM   #781
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Kind of making a lot of assumptions there. He might not be interested in staying long term, or he might want so much money that it's not worth the hassle. 1st rounder for a possible 1 year rental seems pretty steep to me. If the contract extension can be worked out prior then that's a different story.
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Old 09-24-2018, 01:12 PM   #782
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If you draft like 30th in the 1st round get luck getting a DB who is half as good as Earl Thomas.
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Old 09-24-2018, 01:12 PM   #783
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Kind of making a lot of assumptions there. He might not be interested in staying long term, or he might want so much money that it's not worth the hassle. 1st rounder for a possible 1 year rental seems pretty steep to me. If the contract extension can be worked out prior then that's a different story.
Well of course, I don't even think Thomas would be ok with a trade that doesn't involve him getting some love via an extension.
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Old 09-24-2018, 01:13 PM   #784
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Kind of making a lot of assumptions there. He might not be interested in staying long term, or he might want so much money that it's not worth the hassle. 1st rounder for a possible 1 year rental seems pretty steep to me. If the contract extension can be worked out prior then that's a different story.
He's leaving Seattle because he wants a long-term deal and they won't give it to him.

He's not going anywhere without an extension. And no amount of money is too much in the NFL. If a team wants to get a deal done, they'll find a way to get it done. Contracts are completely malleable and so is the cap.
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Kind of making a lot of assumptions there. He might not be interested in staying long term, or he might want so much money that it's not worth the hassle. 1st rounder for a possible 1 year rental seems pretty steep to me. If the contract extension can be worked out prior then that's a different story.
You'd probably have the deal ready when the trade happened.
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Give him a 4/5 year deal. DO IT!!!
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Dude has been practically begging to go to Dallas for almost a year now. Just wouldn't get your hopes up unless it comes out that he is being allowed to work on an extension with us.
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Old 09-24-2018, 01:15 PM   #788
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This situation almost reminds me of the 2017 Draft. We were all saying that it made too much sense for the Chiefs to trade up. They had the ammo, the need, the player available to change everything (IMO)...

If you give up a 2nd round pick and extend him, so what? I mean, we gave Marcus Peters away and got an extra 2nd back. Shouldn’t we make the most out of that pick? It’s not like you’re mortgaging the future. You’ve got some surplus built in there for the draft.

Because the truth is, it’s very unlikely that Chiefs, or any NFL team for that matter, will ever have the offensive talent and coaching combo that they currently possess again. Andy won’t coach forever. We’ll lose some of our WRs or Kelce, Hunt, whatever...

This window is WIDE ****ing open. Yeah, I want it to always be open, but I don’t think it changes the future by trading a 2nd round pick. Thomas might be a great player here for 5 years.

I’d be all over this if I’m Veach. The AFC is ripe for the picking.
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Old 09-24-2018, 01:16 PM   #789
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Give him a 4/5 year deal. DO IT!!!
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Old 09-24-2018, 01:17 PM   #790
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Slight buyer beware in regards to Earl Thomas- obviously he becomes a free agent this summer and he is 29 years old. In my opinion I don't know if I would want to pay Earl Thomas what he is going to command. He wants a big contract and we already have Eric Berry's contract that we are on the hook for- for at least a couple more seasons.

Earl Thomas still looks like a great player but it is hard to argue that he is on the back 9 of his career. Seattle obviously would be looking for compensation greater than they would receive if he walked away in free agency. I don't know what that looks like... a 2nd round pick or a 3rd round pick?

I'm torn- I feel like I want to improve the defense and take a stab at putting this team in real contention to compete for a Superbowl but you don't want to hamper your chances of retaining other talent. I'm sure there is a happy medium to try and accomplish both but this would be a tricky transaction.
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Dude has been practically begging to go to Dallas for almost a year now. Just wouldn't get your hopes up unless it comes out that he is being allowed to work on an extension with us.
True that we shouldn't get our hopes up.

But also true that when the Thomas-to-Dallas stuff started, Dallas wasn't the dumpster fire they are now with zero chance to get Thomas a ring.
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I’m just saying, if they play the long game in every situation, you’ll end up with a 1st ballot HOF QB who had amazing stats for 15 years and no rings to show for it...

I don’t think a trade for Earl changes the future outlook enough to say that it’s really going to hurt their next 5-10 years. At all.
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He's leaving Seattle because he wants a long-term deal and they won't give it to him.

He's not going anywhere without an extension. And no amount of money is too much in the NFL. If a team wants to get a deal done, they'll find a way to get it done. Contracts are completely malleable and so is the cap.
Yup. I'd give them a 2nd this year and 3rd next. Lock him up, dump Berry after this year which you only say 1.5 million but still.
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A lot of those contracts are on the defensive side of the ball and you're being quite generous calling them "other talent". Everyone on defense is expendable, even Chris Jones, if he's asking for a Brinks truck.

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Slight buyer beware in regards to Earl Thomas- obviously he becomes a free agent this summer and he is 29 years old. In my opinion I don't know if I would want to pay Earl Thomas what he is going to command. He wants a big contract and we already have Eric Berry's contract that we are on the hook for- for at least a couple more seasons.

Earl Thomas still looks like a great player but it is hard to argue that he is on the back 9 of his career. Seattle obviously would be looking for compensation greater than they would receive if he walked away in free agency. I don't know what that looks like... a 2nd round pick or a 3rd round pick?

I'm torn- I feel like I want to improve the defense and take a stab at putting this team in real contention to compete for a Superbowl but you don't want to hamper your chances of retaining other talent. I'm sure there is a happy medium to try and accomplish both but this would be a tricky transaction.
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