Hooker from Duke Lacrosse party: Passed-out drunk

Bootlegged · 04-13-2006, 06:55 PM

She seems credible.

Officer: Alleged Victim 'Passed-Out Drunk'
Apr 13 6:01 PM US/Eastern
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By TIM WHITMIRE
Associated Press Writer

DURHAM, N.C.

A woman who claims she was raped by members of Duke University's lacrosse team was described as "just passed-out drunk" by one of the first police officers to see her, according to a recording of radio traffic obtained Thursday by The Associated Press.

The conversation between the officer and a police dispatcher took place about 1:30 a.m. March 14, about five minutes after a grocery store security guard called 911 to report a woman in the parking lot who would not get out of someone else's car.

The officer gave the dispatcher the police code for an intoxicated person and said the woman was unconscious. When asked whether she needed medical help, the officer said: "She's breathing and appears to be fine. She's not in distress. She's just passed-out drunk."

The black woman, a 27-year-old stripper and college student, told police she was raped and beaten by three white men around midnight at an off-campus party thrown by Duke's lacrosse team. The racially charged allegations have led Duke to cancel the highly ranked team's season and accept the resignation of its coach.

No charges have been filed, but District Attorney Mike Nifong has said he believes a crime was committed. Attorneys for the players have said DNA tests failed to connect any players to the alleged attack, and they have urged Nifong to drop his investigation.

The radio recordings, obtained by the AP through a records request, are the first instance in which police or anyone connected with the investigation has said the woman appeared to be intoxicated.

Defense lawyers, however, have said time-stamped photographs taken by the players show that the accuser was drunk and already had suffered some injuries when she arrived at the house for the party.

The recording is consistent with "what I have seen of the photo evidence before," attorney Kerry Sutton said. Those photos, she said, showed that she was "way beyond where you would put somebody behind the wheel of a car."

The description of the woman's medical exam _ which Nifong has said is his basis for believing a rape occurred _ does not mention her being drunk. It states only that the woman's injuries and behavior were consistent with having been raped, sexually assaulted and having suffered a traumatic experience.

The woman has told police she and another stripper hired to dance at the party arrived at 11:30 p.m. March 13. The pair reportedly left the house a short time later, fearing for their safety. The accuser told police the two were coaxed back into the house with an apology, at which point they were separated. That's when she said she was dragged into a bathroom and raped, beaten and choked for a half hour.

At 12:53 a.m., police received a 911 call from a woman complaining that she had been called racial slurs by white men gathered outside the home where the party took place.

The defense has said it believes the second dancer at the party made that call. The 911 call from the grocery store security guard was placed at 1:22 a.m.

In it, the caller says, "Um, the problem is ... it's a lady in somebody else's car and she will not get out of their car. She's like, she's like intoxicated, drunk or something. She's, I mean, she won't get out of the car, period. "

A police spokeswoman did not immediately return a call seeking comment on the radio traffic.

The case has focused intense national scrutiny on Duke and the lacrosse players and has sparked protests on the elite private university's campus and elsewhere in Durham. The school last week canceled the highly ranked team's season and coach Mike Pressler resigned after the release of a vulgar and graphic e-mail sent by a team member shortly after the alleged assault.

Several of the defense attorneys say they expect the district attorney to ask a grand jury on Monday to issue charges in connection with allegations.

"Rest up on Sunday," Sutton said.

There has been no official word, however, on whether Nifong intends to present the allegations Monday. His next opportunity would come two weeks later.

___

AP National Writer Allen G. Breed contributed to this report.

jspchief · 04-13-2006, 06:59 PM

I'm not sure which is worse, that the college cancelled the season before any charges or conviction, or that the DA is too proud to admit he was duped and just drop it.

nychief · 04-13-2006, 07:02 PM

There is far too much false information coming out on both side of this mess. The DA must be pissed.

nychief · 04-13-2006, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief

I'm not sure which is worse, that the college cancelled the season before any charges or conviction, or that the DA is too proud to admit he was duped and just drop it.

none of us are privy to what is going on. obviously these guys are douche bags - but this woman is no cup of tea. And on top of it all you have the lawyers releasing information.

tk13 · 04-13-2006, 07:08 PM

Yeah, it's a nice mess. The worst part is everybody's come to a conclusion before we know all the evidence. From the people involved to the general public.

Personally, I think there are some serious holes and questions to be answered in her story. On the other hand, just because she was drunk doesn't mean she couldn't be raped. Hard telling.

jspchief · 04-13-2006, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Yeah, it's a nice mess. The worst part is everybody's come to a conclusion before we know all the evidence. From the people involved to the general public.

Personally, I think there are some serious holes and questions to be answered in her story. On the other hand, just because she was drunk doesn't mean she couldn't be raped. Hard telling.

The lack of any DNA tells me all I need to know. You don't get raped by three guys in a college house and not pick up any DNA of any kind.

Besides, she's a fucking stripper. One step above hooker. Noty exactly the type of people I would consider trustworthy.

Jim Jones · 04-13-2006, 07:13 PM

Any pics?

tk13 · 04-13-2006, 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief

The lack of any DNA tells me all I need to know. You don't get raped by three guys in a college house and not pick up any DNA of any kind.

Besides, she's a fucking stripper. One step above hooker. Noty exactly the type of people I would consider trustworthy.

I don't disagree with any of that. Right now I don't know what leg they're trying to stand on. I'm just waiting to see if the DA has something up his sleeve he hasn't gone public with. That's the only thing that's gonna save his behind. If he doesn't he is toast, and deservedly so. Just gotta wait and see. I'm not going to jump to conclusions yet though.

**Rain Man** · 04-13-2006, 07:17 PM

I'm against rape. And false charges. I'm hard on crime and I believe in protecting the rights of the accused. I'm fiscally conservative, and I believe in a small government, but one that provides all the help that people need, when they need it. But no more, because I think people need to stand on their own two feet.

(Sorry. I'm practicing for an eventual run for public office.)

Starbux37 · 04-13-2006, 07:20 PM

My question is who are they going to put on trial, the whole team? She said only 3 players raped her. DNA evidence gave them nothing to go on and no one has come forward.

Sounds to me like a waste of taxpayers money. Unless the DA has something up his sleeve, there is just to much reasonable doubt to get a conviction at this time.

I'm not saying nothing happened that night, but if all they can prove is she was hired to strip, the last time I looked there was nothing illegal about that.

nychief · 04-13-2006, 07:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jspchief

The lack of any DNA tells me all I need to know. You don't get raped by three guys in a college house and not pick up any DNA of any kind.

Besides, she's a fucking stripper. One step above hooker. Noty exactly the type of people I would consider trustworthy.

I read that 80% of rape cases have no DNA evidence. And as for character attacks, did you read the email #45 sent out after the party?

**Iowanian** · 04-13-2006, 08:16 PM

Where was the other stripper? Their "body guard"?

I wouldn't think if she were really "beaten, choked, and raped" for half an hour, by college athletes, that they'd have to look very hard to see some bodily damage, that had obviously just been inflicted.

I wonder if all the protesters, reporters and people who disparaged the entire team, will at least appologize to the guys?

Doubt it.

nychief · 04-13-2006, 08:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iowanian

Where was the other stripper? Their "body guard"?

I wouldn't think if she were really "beaten, choked, and raped" for half an hour, by college athletes, that they'd have to look very hard to see some bodily damage, that had obviously just been inflicted.

I wonder if all the protesters, reporters and people who disparaged the entire team, will at least appologize to the guys?

Doubt it.

Well if they sodimized her forcefully, as is attested, I assume she would have physical signs. In fact I believe that the DA said there is other physical evidence. But then again, she is a "hooker" as the thread points out.

**Iowanian** · 04-13-2006, 08:41 PM

I've never raped anyone, seen anyone raped, or engaged in any activity that could be mistake for that.

With that said, let me say that in the cases when I have choked and or beaten anyone in my life...you wouldn't have any question as to seeing noticable marks.

In no way do I condone rape or anything of the like, and if guilty, they should have their wedding tackle removed with a rusty bolt cutter.

I'd also think if they forcefully sodomized her...her ballon knot would definitely show signs of the struggle. This artical indicates that there is time stamped, photographic evidence from earlier in the night that she was intoxicated, and show bruises. I've been to enough bachelor parties to know, that 75% of the strippers usually are bruised like their pimp took a golf club to them.

Its not looking that way to me.

nychief · 04-13-2006, 08:51 PM

I guess we'll see if grand jury indicts. Big sloppy stupid thing.

04-13-2006, 06:55 PM
Bootlegged One4Mahomes Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: f Casino cash: $9985545	Hooker from Duke Lacrosse party: Passed-out drunk She seems credible. Officer: Alleged Victim 'Passed-Out Drunk' Apr 13 6:01 PM US/Eastern Email this story By TIM WHITMIRE Associated Press Writer DURHAM, N.C. A woman who claims she was raped by members of Duke University's lacrosse team was described as "just passed-out drunk" by one of the first police officers to see her, according to a recording of radio traffic obtained Thursday by The Associated Press. The conversation between the officer and a police dispatcher took place about 1:30 a.m. March 14, about five minutes after a grocery store security guard called 911 to report a woman in the parking lot who would not get out of someone else's car. The officer gave the dispatcher the police code for an intoxicated person and said the woman was unconscious. When asked whether she needed medical help, the officer said: "She's breathing and appears to be fine. She's not in distress. She's just passed-out drunk." The black woman, a 27-year-old stripper and college student, told police she was raped and beaten by three white men around midnight at an off-campus party thrown by Duke's lacrosse team. The racially charged allegations have led Duke to cancel the highly ranked team's season and accept the resignation of its coach. No charges have been filed, but District Attorney Mike Nifong has said he believes a crime was committed. Attorneys for the players have said DNA tests failed to connect any players to the alleged attack, and they have urged Nifong to drop his investigation. The radio recordings, obtained by the AP through a records request, are the first instance in which police or anyone connected with the investigation has said the woman appeared to be intoxicated. Defense lawyers, however, have said time-stamped photographs taken by the players show that the accuser was drunk and already had suffered some injuries when she arrived at the house for the party. The recording is consistent with "what I have seen of the photo evidence before," attorney Kerry Sutton said. Those photos, she said, showed that she was "way beyond where you would put somebody behind the wheel of a car." The description of the woman's medical exam _ which Nifong has said is his basis for believing a rape occurred _ does not mention her being drunk. It states only that the woman's injuries and behavior were consistent with having been raped, sexually assaulted and having suffered a traumatic experience. The woman has told police she and another stripper hired to dance at the party arrived at 11:30 p.m. March 13. The pair reportedly left the house a short time later, fearing for their safety. The accuser told police the two were coaxed back into the house with an apology, at which point they were separated. That's when she said she was dragged into a bathroom and raped, beaten and choked for a half hour. At 12:53 a.m., police received a 911 call from a woman complaining that she had been called racial slurs by white men gathered outside the home where the party took place. The defense has said it believes the second dancer at the party made that call. The 911 call from the grocery store security guard was placed at 1:22 a.m. In it, the caller says, "Um, the problem is ... it's a lady in somebody else's car and she will not get out of their car. She's like, she's like intoxicated, drunk or something. She's, I mean, she won't get out of the car, period. " A police spokeswoman did not immediately return a call seeking comment on the radio traffic. The case has focused intense national scrutiny on Duke and the lacrosse players and has sparked protests on the elite private university's campus and elsewhere in Durham. The school last week canceled the highly ranked team's season and coach Mike Pressler resigned after the release of a vulgar and graphic e-mail sent by a team member shortly after the alleged assault. Several of the defense attorneys say they expect the district attorney to ask a grand jury on Monday to issue charges in connection with allegations. "Rest up on Sunday," Sutton said. There has been no official word, however, on whether Nifong intends to present the allegations Monday. His next opportunity would come two weeks later. ___ AP National Writer Allen G. Breed contributed to this report.
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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $2012500	Yeah, it's a nice mess. The worst part is everybody's come to a conclusion before we know all the evidence. From the people involved to the general public. Personally, I think there are some serious holes and questions to be answered in her story. On the other hand, just because she was drunk doesn't mean she couldn't be raped. Hard telling.
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Starbux37 damned n00b Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Dayton, NV Casino cash: $10005802	My question is who are they going to put on trial, the whole team? She said only 3 players raped her. DNA evidence gave them nothing to go on and no one has come forward. Sounds to me like a waste of taxpayers money. Unless the DA has something up his sleeve, there is just to much reasonable doubt to get a conviction at this time. I'm not saying nothing happened that night, but if all they can prove is she was hired to strip, the last time I looked there was nothing illegal about that.
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Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $4788454	Where was the other stripper? Their "body guard"? I wouldn't think if she were really "beaten, choked, and raped" for half an hour, by college athletes, that they'd have to look very hard to see some bodily damage, that had obviously just been inflicted. I wonder if all the protesters, reporters and people who disparaged the entire team, will at least appologize to the guys? Doubt it.
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04-13-2006, 08:41 PM	#14
Iowanian Supporter Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Utopia Casino cash: $4788454	I've never raped anyone, seen anyone raped, or engaged in any activity that could be mistake for that. With that said, let me say that in the cases when I have choked and or beaten anyone in my life...you wouldn't have any question as to seeing noticable marks. In no way do I condone rape or anything of the like, and if guilty, they should have their wedding tackle removed with a rusty bolt cutter. I'd also think if they forcefully sodomized her...her ballon knot would definitely show signs of the struggle. This artical indicates that there is time stamped, photographic evidence from earlier in the night that she was intoxicated, and show bruises. I've been to enough bachelor parties to know, that 75% of the strippers usually are bruised like their pimp took a golf club to them. Its not looking that way to me.
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