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Old 10-12-2018, 12:36 AM  
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CNN & The Left Have Deemed Kanye West a Token Negro that Doesn't Read.

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Old 10-13-2018, 09:30 AM   #61
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Old 10-13-2018, 10:13 AM   #62
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I saw where Lemon said Kanye’s mother must be spinning in her grave or some similar sentiment.

Let’s see.
Kanye met with the POTUS in the White House sitting next to Jim Brown.
Lemon goes home every night and sucks a dick.
Now, whose mom is proud and whose is disgusted?
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Old 10-13-2018, 10:30 AM   #63
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Old 10-13-2018, 10:49 AM   #64
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The entire Dem party has told us that's way-cist.
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They nominated her as their presidential candidate.

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Old 10-13-2018, 10:54 AM   #65
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Up to 50% of bipolar patients attempt suicide, and 20% of all deaths of bipolar patients are the result of suicide. You're absolutely right.
What are the rates before and after they start taking meds?
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Old 10-13-2018, 11:31 AM   #66
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Old 10-13-2018, 11:34 AM   #67
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If they choose to refuse treatment then no, they can't think for themselves.
Wow, sure you're not a reincarnation of Joseph Stalin since you believe in such notions to be able to force drug treatment or any treatment on victims?

Very Stalinesque.
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Old 10-13-2018, 11:35 AM   #68
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What are the rates before and after they start taking meds?
Depends on the med and the bipolar type (I vs II, mixed states, etc.. At this point, you can't (and shouldn't) run a double-blind placebo-controlled trial with no active comparator, because it wouldn't be ethical (same with cancer). This means your treatment vs no treatment data won't be as robust. However, cohort analyses have shown that lithium can decrease suicide attempts by 1300% compared to no treatment.
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So if he's been this way for 20 years, why is he going to the white house?
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Old 10-13-2018, 12:08 PM   #70
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Depends on the med and the bipolar type (I vs II, mixed states, etc.. At this point, you can't (and shouldn't) run a double-blind placebo-controlled trial with no active comparator, because it wouldn't be ethical (same with cancer). This means your treatment vs no treatment data won't be as robust. However, cohort analyses have shown that lithium can decrease suicide attempts by 1300% compared to no treatment.
I'm skeptical of any cohort study on this topic and was mostly being a smart ass because any answer is just speculative. Do you diagnose post mortem? Intentionally deprive people of meds they need? Obviously not. What about people who are wrongly diagnosed? It's not like diagnosing cancer.

Success in reducing suicidality via medication should result in reducing suicidality.

We're going the other way with it. As a pragmatist, I'm not convinced our approach to mental health is good in the first place.

Nor do I trust arm chair diagnosis of mental illness from someone who's never met the person they are diagnosing. I get that he's a nut. He always has been a nut.

Nobody thought he should have his right to choose his own ideas deprived until he disagreed with the wrong people. You don't find that... weird?

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Old 10-13-2018, 12:20 PM   #71
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I'm skeptical of any cohort study on this topic and was mostly being a smart ass because any answer is just speculative. Do you diagnose post mortem? Intentionally deprive people of meds they need? Obviously not. What about people who are wrongly diagnosed? It's not like diagnosing cancer.

Success in reducing suicidality via medication should result in reducing suicidality.

We're going the other way with it. As a pragmatist, I'm not convinced our approach to mental health is good in the first place.

Nor do I trust arm chair diagnosis of mental illness from someone who's never met the person they are diagnosing. I get that he's a nut. He always has been a nut.

Nobody thought he should have his right to choose his own ideas deprived until he disagreed with the wrong people. You don't find that... weird?
A meta analysis of 33 studies isn't speculative.
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there's a big trade off for virtuosos that go on meds too. if Kanye went all in with psychiatric meds, his creative output would dwindle too
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there's a big trade off for virtuosos that go on meds too. if Kanye went all in with psychiatric meds, his creative output would dwindle too
It's not an either-or proposition.
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A meta analysis of 33 studies isn't speculative.
When pragmatic results are frequently in opposition to predictions and predictive models frequently fail, I don't have a lot of faith in that particular branch of science.

A meta analysis of 33 studies with limited ability to control seems incredibly soft. So speculative is a bad word.

It's more accurate regarding your diagnosis of a guy you've never met.
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