NFL Draft Survey of Draft Websites: Chiefs will pick... - Page 4

KCJohnny · 01-10-2009, 11:31 PM

Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...odd&id=3803148

Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
http://www.draftseason.com/lupagus-nfl-mock-draft

Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2009.php

Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma
http://newnfldraft.com/

Aaron Curry, OLB Wake Forest
http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php

Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas
http://www.footballsfuture.com/2009/nflmockdraft.html

James Laurinaitis, LB, Ohio State
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...raft-round-one

This site compiles draft 'experts' picks. Out of the top 25, only 3 have Bradford falling to the Chiefs at #3 while 9 have Matt Stafford falling to the 3rd overrall (!) and 3 have Orakpo and 3 have Curry being selected as the 3rd overall pick. Just 12 of 25 project a QB to be selected as the 3rd overall (assuming most realize KC has the #3 pick). 10 of the 25 have defensive players being selected #3.

The rationale provided by many of the draft websites is that the Chiefs should continue to develop Tyler Thigpen and draft to address the NFL's worst _efense which set an NFL record for fewest sacks in league history.

Of course the X factor is the new GM, but I thought it was interesting that Sam Bradford was not a slam dunk for most draft web sites, and fewer than 50% see Kansas City drafting a QB at all.

KCJohnny

KCJohnny · 01-11-2009, 01:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

Pretty much.

Yeah, you're right. Who needs TDs?

aturnis · 01-11-2009, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Wow you're dense.

ha!

Nightfyre · 01-11-2009, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Yeah, you're right. Who needs TDs?

PPG: Chiefs - 18.2; Falcons - 24.4; Ravens - 24.1
TDs: Thigpen - 18; Ryan - 14; Flacco -14

Funny - TDs by the QB don't correlate to team scoring.

Mecca · 01-11-2009, 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

PPG: Chiefs - 18.2; Falcons - 24.4; Ravens - 24.1
TDs: Thigpen - 18; Ryan - 14; Flacco -14

Funny - TDs by the QB don't correlate to team scoring.

This is Johnny the guy who tried to use the garbage time stats the Chiefs put up in the Buffalo blowout as an example of the offense improving.

beach tribe · 01-11-2009, 01:40 AM

So KC Johnny wants to keep Herm, as the coach, and Thigpen as the starter.

Thigpen will be the starter for a few games until our QBOTF is ready to play.

KCJohnny · 01-11-2009, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre

PPG: Chiefs - 18.2; Falcons - 24.4; Ravens - 24.1
TDs: Thigpen - 18; Ryan - 14; Flacco -14

Funny - TDs by the QB don't correlate to team scoring.

Thigpen had 4 additional TDs rushing/receiving. And the Chiefs averaged 21.6 ppg in games started by Thigpen who came off the ebnch. Flacco and Ryan were starters in camp from day one and got all the reps. thigpen got garbage time or scout team reps and had to immediately step in and play.

**Tribal Warfare** · 01-11-2009, 01:40 AM

This also concerning drafting strategy if KC believes Albert is cemented at LT, and Sanchez/Stafford isn't there. I'm kind of expecting them making the team trading up sell there soul which would mean next years 1st round pick and another day 1 pick if they just totally fell in love with a specific player.if they won't do that pick the BPA even if it's an LT and move Albert to RT. I rather do that then allow a team to believe we need to trade down to fill a need because then you'd get the bad end of the deal because of the undercutting.

KCJohnny · 01-11-2009, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

So KC Johnny wants to keep Herm, as the coach, and Thigpen as the starter.

Thigpen will be the starter for a few games until our QBOTF is ready to play.

What I said was that Edwards deserves another year as he had just one to rebuild. And its hard IMHO to justify picking a QB in the draft when you have the NFL's worst _efense.

Rigodan · 01-11-2009, 01:49 AM

Hey Mecca, just curious who you would take if everyone relevant but Sanchez declared and Stafford and Mays were off the board. What do you do then? Do you settle for Bradford?

I know Mays likely won't be gone but I am skeptical the chiefs would take him there. I could definately live with Mays though.

**RealSNR** · 01-11-2009, 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rigodan

Hey Mecca, just curious who you would take if everyone relevant but Sanchez declared and Stafford and Mays were off the board. What do you do then? Do you settle for Bradford?

I know Mays likely won't be gone but I am skeptical the chiefs would take him there. I could definately live with Mays though.

Rams likely want Andre Smith. I think either Stafford OR Mays will be there at #3. Or both, in which case we take Stafford.

Basileus777 · 01-11-2009, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Rams likely want Andre Smith. I think either Stafford OR Mays will be there at #3. Or both, in which case we take Stafford.

Taking a safety at 3? I hope we aren't that ****ing stupid.

I wouldn't mind trading down and taking Mays, but at 3 he is horrible value.

crazycoffey · 01-11-2009, 02:09 AM

mocks are fun!!!!

all look to be good players at this level, but who knows....
not terribly happy/upset with some of them

KCJohnny · 01-11-2009, 02:18 AM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Rams likely want Andre Smith. I think either Stafford OR Mays will be there at #3. Or both, in which case we take Stafford.

Thanks.

So who is the QBotF for the Rams? Isn't Bulger about 32?

Valiant · 01-11-2009, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by KCJohnny

Thanks.

So who is the QBotF for the Rams? Isn't Bulger about 32?

I don't think the Rams believe they are in rebuilding road.. Just a ****ing awful year..

mylittlepony · 01-11-2009, 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare

This also concerning drafting strategy if KC believes Albert is cemented at LT, and Sanchez/Stafford isn't there. I'm kind of expecting them making the team trading up sell there soul which would mean next years 1st round pick and another day 1 pick if they just totally fell in love with a specific player.if they won't do that pick the BPA even if it's an LT and move Albert to RT. I rather do that then allow a team to believe we need to trade down to fill a need because then you'd get the bad end of the deal because of the undercutting.

Exactly.I agree 100%. You draft by looking at your board not at your roster.

Getting top 15 talent with a top 3 pick (just because of the position he plays) is bad value.

01-10-2009, 11:31 PM
KCJohnny Blind, deceived homer Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Maryland, USA Casino cash: $10004900	Survey of Draft Websites: Chiefs will pick... Matthew Stafford, QB, Georgia http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...odd&id=3803148 Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas http://www.draftseason.com/lupagus-nfl-mock-draft Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2009.php Sam Bradford, QB, Oklahoma http://newnfldraft.com/ Aaron Curry, OLB Wake Forest http://www.draftcountdown.com/sub/Mock-Draft-A.php Brian Orakpo, DE, Texas http://www.footballsfuture.com/2009/nflmockdraft.html James Laurinaitis, LB, Ohio State http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...raft-round-one This site compiles draft 'experts' picks. Out of the top 25, only 3 have Bradford falling to the Chiefs at #3 while 9 have Matt Stafford falling to the 3rd overrall (!) and 3 have Orakpo and 3 have Curry being selected as the 3rd overall pick. Just 12 of 25 project a QB to be selected as the 3rd overall (assuming most realize KC has the #3 pick). 10 of the 25 have defensive players being selected #3. The rationale provided by many of the draft websites is that the Chiefs should continue to develop Tyler Thigpen and draft to address the NFL's worst _efense which set an NFL record for fewest sacks in league history. Of course the X factor is the new GM, but I thought it was interesting that Sam Bradford was not a slam dunk for most draft web sites, and fewer than 50% see Kansas City drafting a QB at all. KCJohnny
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Tribal Warfare The Boom Boom Room Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Far Beyond Comprehension Casino cash: $952813	This also concerning drafting strategy if KC believes Albert is cemented at LT, and Sanchez/Stafford isn't there. I'm kind of expecting them making the team trading up sell there soul which would mean next years 1st round pick and another day 1 pick if they just totally fell in love with a specific player.if they won't do that pick the BPA even if it's an LT and move Albert to RT. I rather do that then allow a team to believe we need to trade down to fill a need because then you'd get the bad end of the deal because of the undercutting. __________________
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01-11-2009, 01:49 AM	#54
Rigodan Starter Join Date: Dec 2008 Casino cash: $10004900	Hey Mecca, just curious who you would take if everyone relevant but Sanchez declared and Stafford and Mays were off the board. What do you do then? Do you settle for Bradford? I know Mays likely won't be gone but I am skeptical the chiefs would take him there. I could definately live with Mays though.
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