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Old 04-23-2007, 08:40 AM  
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Gasoline at $4 Coming to a Pump Near You, Unfazed by Rising Tab

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?p...d=afOlUzd30YOo

Pretty alarmist, IMO, but possible.

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Old 05-05-2011, 02:33 PM   #2761
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Old 05-05-2011, 02:50 PM   #2762
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Wow. Gasoline demand in the US dropped by somewhere between 1.2 and 4% last month. That's huge.
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Old 05-05-2011, 02:56 PM   #2763
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The irony seems to be that if gas prices are low, it's going to be because the economy sucks...so, rooting for lower gas prices means rooting for a sucky economy...
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Old 05-05-2011, 03:44 PM   #2764
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Putin Accuses Oil Firms of Price 'Conspiracy'

Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin accused oil companies on Thursday of a "conspiracy" to force up gasoline prices, as the world's largest oil producer struggles to combat fuel shortages.

Putin rebuked Deputy Prime Minister Igor Sechin, his point man for energy, for suggesting at a government meeting that price rises had resulted from a lack of oil products offered for sale on commodities exchanges.

"It's not a shortage. This is not about a shortage. This is a conspiracy. They are colluding," Putin told Sechin, who serves on the board of state-controlled oil major Rosneft and is widely seen as the chief spokesman for the industry.

The government last week raised gasoline export duties by 44 percent to keep fuel in the domestic market after pumps ran dry in some regions and shortages spread to Moscow and St Petersburg.

Sechin has chaired talks to discuss proposed amendments to oil tax reforms that would ramp up export duties on refined products to punitive levels if crude oil prices are high.

Analysts blame the shortages on price curbs demanded by Putin from industry bosses in February, and a lack of investment in the refinery capacity needed to produce the premium fuel used by Russia's growing fleet of modern cars.

Fuel prices are the latest driver of inflation that is close to double digits. Gasoline prices rose by 2.8 percent last week, their biggest jump in 14 weeks, data showed on Thursday.

The central bank hiked interest rates last Friday to contain inflation, which will be key for sentiment ahead of elections to parliament in December and a presidential poll next March.

Putin has not ruled out returning to the presidency, and the viability of any candidacy will depend on his handling of the economy. President Dmitry Medvedev, the other wheel in Russia's ruling "tandem," may also seek a second term.

Sechin's talks with officials discussed emergency measures such as increased trading of oil products on official exchanges and intervention sales of gasoline from strategic reserves.

One goverment source familiar with the talks said, however, that such intervention sales would be difficult to carry out in short order from a legal point of view.

Sechin did not clarify what measures he would back, but said possible additional measures would be focused on crude oil.
Russia's government sets monthly export schedules for oil firms from major ports and therefore has the ability to limit shipments, a measure that could unsettle oil markets at a time of high global prices.

Russia produces over 10 million barrels per day (bpd) of crude, of which 4 million bpd is refined. Around half of the refined products are exported, mainly to Europe.

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Russia's government has been tightening the screws on the oil sector, which generates the lion's share of state revenue, to rein in the budget deficit and fund pre-election spending helped by oil prices' rise to a 2 1/2 year high.

It has from this month cancelled preferential export duties for Rosneft's Vankor oilfield as well as for TNK-BP's Verkhnechonskoye and Surgutneftegaz's Talakan. Some analysts had expected that the government might ease pressure on the sector by cutting taxes on crude production but Deputy Finance Minister Sergei Shatalov said he saw "no reason to do this."

Thursday's meeting considered faster implementation of an Energy Ministry proposal to lighten the tax burden on crude oil exports and equalise export duties on products.

The so-called "60/66" proposal would lower a coefficient that determines crude oil export duty to 60 from 65 now, while equalising the export duty applying to light products at 66 percent of the crude oil export duty.

High oil prices have, however, complicated the maths on the proposals, which had been due to take effect in July.

The Vedomosti daily reported that one proposal on the table would lower the crude oil export duty coefficient to 55 and hike the factor applying to refined products to 86 percent if the oil price exceeds $90 per barrel.

"60/66 only works with the price at $90-$95 per barrel... With $100 it doesn't work at all," Deputy Energy Minister Sergei Kudryashov told reporters.

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Old 05-06-2011, 07:30 AM   #2765
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I was surprised to see gas prices dropped here over night. They were down about a a nickel. $3.79 now.
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Old 05-06-2011, 07:35 AM   #2766
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The irony seems to be that if gas prices are low, it's going to be because the economy sucks...so, rooting for lower gas prices means rooting for a sucky economy...
I read this on CNN.

In the past week, oil prices have tumbled more than 10% on worries that recent disappointing economic reports may mean we are in for an economic slowdown.

Well, no shit!! I'm an idiot, but even I could have told them that raising gas prices that drastically is going to effect the economy negatively.
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Old 05-06-2011, 08:28 AM   #2767
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Does this mean prices will quickly head back up?

Strong Job Report Shows U.S. Economy Gaining Steam
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Old 05-06-2011, 08:36 AM   #2768
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Old 05-06-2011, 08:55 AM   #2769
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Crude going back up today. Yesterday was too much of a drop, IMO.
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Old 05-06-2011, 10:18 AM   #2770
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I thinkin gas is over priced. When oil peaked @ 147 in 08, gas was pretty much where it is now.
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Old 05-06-2011, 10:29 AM   #2771
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Crude going back up today. Yesterday was too much of a drop, IMO.
so, following the usual pattern, the suddent drop had no affect on gas prices, because of the "wait and see" attitude when prices decrease. However, the subsequent rise/rebound will cause gas prices to go up, because of the "panic" attitude when prices increase.
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Old 05-06-2011, 10:31 AM   #2772
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prices were raised in order to ancitipate all the demand that was gonig to happen when the prices dropped.
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Old 05-06-2011, 11:04 AM   #2773
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2011: 12:53 PM ET

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- Commodities tried to make a comeback Friday, after a stronger-than-expected report on the labor market sparked a rush into equities.

The U.S. economy added 244,000 jobs in April, the government said Friday. Economists surveyed by CNNMoney had predicted an increase of 185,000 jobs in April, following a 216,000 rise in March.

As stocks rallied, oil prices flip-flopped. Crude fell 3% ahead of the jobs report, then got a little boost before retreating again.

In early afternoon trading, crude for June delivery slipped 1% to $98.80 a barrel. On Thursday, crude sank nearly 9% -- the biggest one-day percentage drop in two years.

"Oil prices are going crazy," said Phil Flynn, senior market analyst at PFG Best. "We had this huge correction because people were concerned about the economy slowing down and demand weakening, and now we're rebounding from yesterday's selloff because we got a good jobs report and people are saying maybe demand will be okay."

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Flynn said oil had to take a break from the recent run-up at some point, and now that "we broke the back of the parabolic bull move," it will just take some time for prices to stabilize.

"We're going to see some volatility, but I do think we've hit the top -- I don't think we're going to see $115 a barrel for some time," he said, adding that once the near-term choppiness smoothes out, prices will likely hover between $80 and $104 a barrel.

Crude prices neared $114 a barrel last month as fears about supplies took hold following escalating violence in Libya. But as investors got 'accustomed' to those concerns, oil prices became mired in a fairly tight range...until this week.

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In the past week, oil prices have tumbled more than 10% on worries that recent disappointing economic reports may mean we are in for an economic slowdown.

Along with oil, stocks also took a big hit Thursday as investors became increasingly nervous ahead of the government's monthly jobs report.

Earlier this week, payroll processing company ADP said private sector payrolls grew by 179,000 in April, after an upwardly revised 207,000 increase in March. Economists were expecting a gain of 200,000 private sector jobs.

The ADP jobs report typically sets the tone for the government's monthly jobs data. Meanwhile, on Thursday, a report showed jobless claims surged to the highest level in eight months.

The dollar gained nearly 2% on Thursday after the European Central Bank left interest rates unchanged -- putting additional pressure on oil prices. Because crude prices are priced in dollars, a stronger U.S. currency tends to pressures commodities.

That was the case Friday as well, with the dollar rallying 1% against the euro, which added to the commodities selling pressure.

Silver: canary in the commodity coalmine?

In other commodities, silver prices also pared some of its early losses, falling 4% Friday -- after sinking 7% before the jobs report. Silver has taken a big hit after the CME raised its margin requirements, meaning traders have to leave more on the table to buy silver futures.

Gold for June delivery ticked up $2.10, or 1%, to 1483.50, after dropping more than 2% on Thursday.

Gas prices declined on Friday, following a 44-day string of gains -- during which the price of gasoline surged 12%. The national average price for a gallon of gasoline fell one tenth of a cent to $3.984 on Friday, according to motorist group AAA.
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Old 05-06-2011, 12:53 PM   #2775
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