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Bye-Week Mock Offseason

So far this season, the defense has clearly been an issue, so here we go...

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Malcolm Butler, CB (NE)
Butler is a premier corner in the NFL, sticking in coverage to his man, following elite receivers, and making plays on the football. He's also solid in run support, something he'd hopefully pass along to Marcus Peters.
(reference J. Norman, X. Rhodes, P. Peterson)
5 years, $70.0 million, $15 million signing bonus, $35 million guaranteed
~ $11.0 million 2018


Christian Jones, ILB (CHI)
Jones has been an outstanding reserve for the Bears, but it's time for him to be a full-time starter in the NFL. He's got speed to cover and size to take on blocks. He's been very productive when given the opportunities.
(reference D. Bates, C. Robertson)
3 years, $8 million, $1.5 million signing bonus
~ $2.0 million 2018


Quinton Dial, DL (GB)
Dial was outstanding as a starter at nose tackle in San Francisco and was solid as a rotational end. He can make living stuffing the middle and won't cost $8 million per to do it.
(reference Z. Hood, M. Unrein)
2 years, $2.3 million, $300k signing bonus
~ $1.0 million 2018


Justin Coleman, CB (SEA)
Coleman has been a solid reserve corner in both New England and in Seattle and he's only 24. He could be a nice get for a team starved for talent at the position.
(reference J. Bademosi, M. Sherels)
2 years, $4 million, $1.5 million guaranteed
~ $1.5 million 2018


Total: ~ $15.5 million 2018

Re-Sign:
Anthony Sherman, FB
One of the best fullbacks in the league and great on special teams. He's worth his money.
(reference P. DiMarco)
4 years, $8.5 million, $2 million signing bonus
~ $2 million 2018


Tyler Bray, QB
With Mahomes set to take the reigns, Bray is the only other QB that knows the offense. He's not worth much, but he's worth keeping around for a year or two yet.
(reference R. Griffen, K. Clemens, B. Weeden, C. Daniel, etc)
2 years, $2.4 million
~ $1.2 million 2018


Zach Fulton, OL
Fulton is a very solid reserve at guard and center. He shouldn't command too much on the market, so he's worthy of re-signing for his experience and versatility.
(reference T. Larson, M. Slauson, T. Johnson, etc)
3 years, $5.8 million
~ $1.8 million 2018


Terrance Mitchell, CB
I'm pretty down on Mitchell right now because he's played pretty terrible this season after showing tremendous promise in 2016. I think Mitchell has some value as a nickle/dime guy yet, so he might be worth bringing back but it has to be cheap.
(reference S. McManis, C. Sensabaugh, etc)
2 years, $3.0 million
~ $1.5 million 2018


Rakeem Nunez-Roches, DL
RNR has flashed some decent ability, but he doesn't look to be starting material. He seems at his best as a rotational nose.
RFA Tender Original Round
~ $1.8 million 2018


Terrance Smith, ILB
Smith is solid on special teams and will be cheap to retain on his tender, so why not?
ERFA Tender
~$630k 2018


Kevin Pierre-Louis, ILB
I think KPL has shown enough that he at least warrants bringing back on a vet min deal for another season. I'm not sure I'd lock him up just yet, but solid reserves are nice to have.
1 year, vet minimum $790k

Total: ~ $8.2 million 2018


Estimated 2018 Net Increase Against Cap: $10.2 million
Total Cap Space needed: $23.1 + $5 million buffer + $3 million effective draft = $33.1 million


Let walk:

LB R. Wilson (RFA)
WR D. Thomas
WR A. Wilson
DB S. Terrell
DB K. Acker
DB P. Gaines
DL J. Jenkins
DL R. Miller
OL J. Devey
SP D. Colquitt

Other Transactions:

Trade Alex Smith, QB ($17 million cap space)
Chiefs trade QB Alex Smith to Jacksonville for a 1st round selection in the 2018 draft and a 4th round selection in the 2019 draft. Jacksonville is in win now mode and their problems start and end at QB. Smith is a steady, reliable QB that doesn't turn the ball over (contrary to what they get from Bortles) and Tom Coughlin should favor bringing that into the fold if possible. Smith may or may not be worth a first, but if Sam Bradford can bring one in...
Retire/Release Derrick Johnson, ILB ($8 million cap space)
Retire/Release Tamba Hali, OLB ($7 million cap space)

Total Cap Space Gained: $33 million

Other Selection Notes:
Chiefs traded 2018 1st round selection to Buffalo for the 10th selection in the 2017 draft.
Chiefs traded 2018 5th round selection to Cleveland for Cameron Erving (OL)
Chiefs receive 2018 conditional 7th* round selection from Seattle for Isaiah Battle (OL). *Presumed 7th since Seattled traded their 6th round selection to Oakland in the deal for Marshawn Lynch.
Chiefs receive 2018 conditional 7th round selection from Arizona for Marcus Cooper (CB)
Chiefs receive 2018 conditional 7th round selection from Tennesee for David King (DL)
Chiefs traded 2018 7th round selection to San Francisco for Kenneth Acker (CB)

Onto the draft:

1. (JAX/Smith) - Trenton Thompson, DT, Georgia (6'4" 295)
Thompson is a load on the interior that can collapse the pocket and put heat on the QB. He's actually built quite a bit like Chris Jones, powerful with speed to close.
2. D.J. Chark, WR, LSU (6'3" 200)
Speed kills and Chark has it in spades. Reid needs a team of guys that can be YAC machines and threaten all parts of the field on any down, and Chark can do that. Chark is also a decent punt returner.
3. Tyquan Lewis, DE, Ohio State (6'4" 260)
A consumate worker-bee, Lewis is tough at the point of attack. He hasn't been the double-digit sack guy that was expected, but he's been good for 8 per. He's had a bit of a down year, but so has most of Ohio State's front. Lewis is tough against the run and pass.
4. Matt Linehan, QB, Idaho (6'3" 239)
Linehan is a pro-style QB with good overall mechanics. He comes from a New England style offensive system, so Belichick may be interested, but so too will be his father Scott Linehan (Cowboys OC).
6. Ralph Webb, RB, Vanderbilt (5'9" 202)
A quick runner with excellent vision and burst to the hole, plus outstanding hands. One of the best runners in SEC history that gets zero love because he plays at Vandy. A prototype Reid back to put pressure on West.
6. (COMP/Foles) Brandon Parker, OT, North Carolina A&T (6'7" 300)
An FCS left tackle with good feet and gets into his blocks in the run game pretty well for his length. Certainly will be a bit of a NFL project going from the FCS to the pros, but he has legitimate tools to work with.
7. (SEA/Battle) Anthony Sherrils, SS, Missouri (6'0" 200)
An extremely fast defender that flashes greatness at times and definitely has an elite closing burst to the ball carrier. Needs to work on his understanding of the game and his assignments as he sometimes looks lost out there one play only to make a good one the next.
7. (ARZ/Cooper) Austin Golson, OC, Auburn (6'4" 314)
A jack-of-all trades, Golson has started at every position on the O-line, but he is best at guard and center.
7. (TEN/King) Spencer Smith, P, Memphis (6'1" 195)
Not much to say, he's one of the best in the nation and can be a backup kicker to boot.

Roster:
QB: P. Mahomes, T. Bray, M. Linehan
RB: K. Hunt, S. Ware, C. West, R. Webb
FB: A. Sherman
TE: T. Kelce, D. Harris, R. Travis
WR: T. Hill, D. Chark, C. Conley, J. Chesson, D. Robinson, M. Kemp?
OL: E. Fisher, P. Ehinger, M. Morse, L. Duvernay-Tardif, M. Schwartz, B. Witzman, C. Erving, Z. Fulton, A. Golson, Parker
DL: C. Jones, A. Bailey, T. Thompson, T. Kpassagnon, Q. Dial, R. Nunez-Roches
OLB: J. Houston, D. Ford, T. Lewis, D. Nicolas, F. Zombo
ILB:, R. Ragland, C. Jones, U. Eligwe, K. Pierre-Louis, T. Smith
CB: M. Peters, M. Butler, S. Nelson, J. Coleman, T. Mitchell
DB: E. Berry, R. Parker, D. Sorensen, E. Murray, A. Sherrils
ST: H. Butker, J. Winchester, S. Smith

Last edited by kccrow; 11-17-2017 at 11:31 AM.. Reason: Swap Richardson/Oliver for Butler/Thompson
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Old 11-16-2017, 02:20 AM   #16
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I 100% agree with this.
Honestly it doesn't matter to me because every player outside Eric Berry Marcus Peters, Chris Jones and Justin Houston maybe Bennie Logan are absolutely replaceable.
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Old 11-16-2017, 09:26 AM   #17
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I guess we could try putting orange cones on the outside to defend receivers because without Marcus Peters, that's pretty much what it would look like.
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Old 11-16-2017, 11:25 AM   #18
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I guess we could try putting orange cones on the outside to defend receivers because without Marcus Peters, that's pretty much what it would look like.
Aside form his occasional interception, he's been about that good this season as well. Call me not mesmerized by a turnover when the rest of his game has been shit. He's better than the rest of the shit the Chiefs have in coverage, and I'm obviously concerned about that other load of shit, but I'm not giving Peters much leeway either. I'd honestly be looking for his replacement before then end of his rookie deal and trying to make a trade in his option year the way things have been. His coverage ability is certainly replaceable and my dead grandmother could play as well in run support.
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Old 11-16-2017, 02:14 PM   #19
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I can also see a Marcus Peters trade, because of his distaste in being in the Midwest and being " an African American which works against him in KC community"
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Old 11-17-2017, 10:50 AM   #20
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I feel that Butler is a prime candidate to be a FA bust. He's going to get an insane amount of money. Belichick paid his money to Gilmore for a reason.

Sheldon Richardson would be a huge get, but I feel Seattle will release Sherman and use the savings to keep Richardson.

I'd maybe get an edge guy in FA than rely on a good Defensive draft.
Anyone you think, in particular, the Chiefs could get as an edge player?

I'm confident Dallas doesn't let Lawrence get away as they've spent years trying to get a competent DE.
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I would like the Chiefs to get as many pass rushers as possible. They are probably going to see what they have with Tanoh, but I'd like to get another pass rusher at some point to get Frank Zombo off this roster.

Still think that a strong DE to shut down the run should be #1 target for this team.
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Old 11-21-2017, 12:25 AM   #22
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Anyone you think, in particular, the Chiefs could get as an edge player?

I'm confident Dallas doesn't let Lawrence get away as they've spent years trying to get a competent DE.
Aaron Lynch is worth a one year prove it deal. He's a total bad fit with the 49ers changing schemes and is scheduled to be a FA.

Sign him and draft a guy early and let them fight.
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Old 11-28-2017, 09:18 AM   #23
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Peters, Butler, Berry, Revis...could be a really really good secondary!

How do you figure we can get a 1st and 4th for Alex? Garoppolo only returned a 2nd.
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Peters, Butler, Berry, Revis...could be a really really good secondary!

How do you figure we can get a 1st and 4th for Alex? Garoppolo only returned a 2nd.
This was before the wheels completely fell of and "MVP Alexis" was still in our heads. I've downgraded my thoughts to a 4th at best and might be lucky at all not to have to just outright cut him.
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This was before the wheels completely fell of and "MVP Alexis" was still in our heads. I've downgraded my thoughts to a 4th at best and might be lucky at all not to have to just outright cut him.
My bad...I'm down to grab Butler as well and hoping we can squeeze something meaningful out of Alex. I'm thinking we'll have to ask for a player at this point rather than a pick. A proven commodity / swing at the draft? Any player we grab would come in at significantly less than the $20m we owe Alex next year.
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Just quit drafting these long term development picks. It's so stupid. If he can't get on the field year 1, don't invest in them until the 4th rd (would be okay with a known player being injured).
Draft guys who have shown they can play and be tough. It's not hard.
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Old 12-02-2017, 10:42 AM   #27
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I look for Veach to be pretty active this offseason in many ways. The guy clearly doesn't mind making trades, and he is going to want to flex his muscle during his first offseason I bet.

Key needs appear to be (in no particular order):
WR depth
LG
Backup QB
TE depth
Nose tackle
ILB (Next to Ragland)
OLB (Will Ford be kept? Can KPass start?)
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Safety (Chiefs are getting older at the position right now)

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Safety (Chiefs are getting older at the position right now)
The Chiefs should claim Calvin Pryor, who was just cut by the Jags.

25 years old, has some upside, probably more than Eric Murray.
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The Chiefs should claim Calvin Pryor, who was just cut by the Jags.

25 years old, has some upside, probably more than Eric Murray.

we should definitely pick him up!
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The Chiefs should claim Calvin Pryor, who was just cut by the Jags.

25 years old, has some upside, probably more than Eric Murray.
I think he’s an epic prick. Isn’t this the second team he’s been booted off of this year?
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