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Old 01-17-2013, 10:07 PM  
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Old 02-15-2013, 11:31 PM   #2971
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Including myself. I've been low on him ever since I watched his game cut ups in December. Watched the entire 2012 season. A little bit of 2011. But he's not a good prospect. But I'm more generous that even Mayock. I give Wilson a 2nd round grade.

Still my top 5 is Geno>Glennon>Wilson>Barkley>Nassib at the moment. Although E.J. Manuel looks like a project who could turn out to be decent.
I think youre the first person on this site to have Glennon as the #2
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Old 02-15-2013, 11:31 PM   #2972
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I think youre the first person on this site to have Glennon as the #2
Been that way since late December.
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Old 02-15-2013, 11:35 PM   #2973
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Including myself. I've been low on him ever since I watched his game cut ups in December. Watched the entire 2012 season. A little bit of 2011. But he's not a good prospect. I'm more generous that even Mayock. I give Wilson a 2nd round grade.

Still my top 5 is Geno>Glennon>Wilson>Barkley>Nassib at the moment. Although E.J. Manuel looks like a project who could turn out to be decent.
What don't you like about Wilson?

(And sorry if you've already explained this 1000 times and I'm just slow)
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Old 02-15-2013, 11:36 PM   #2974
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Problem is he doesn't talk like that. He carries an arrogance to his thoughts even at this point. He isn't implying that he needs to wait and see. He has decided. He will change his boardroom file.ak.hen he sniffs the winds and fixes it to not look bad. There is a difference between knowing talent and knowing what people are going to do.
Yup. Can't just make outrageous claims that he's not worth the #1, be so stubborn about it for so long, then all of a sudden change your tune with no legitimate reasons. Have to wait until he impresses at the combine/pro day. That way, you don't look like you had no idea what you were talking about all along.

Also, someone reputable has to be willing to be the first to say it. Then the rest will follow suit.
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Old 02-15-2013, 11:44 PM   #2975
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What don't you like about Wilson?

(And sorry if you've already explained this 1000 times and I'm just slow)
I don't like that he has an average arm at best. He threw a ton of checkdowns and underneath routes at Arkansas. And often times when he did the ball was thrown behind the receiver on those patent shallow crosses that they abused.

I factored in a mild arm with inconsistent accuracy, and an inability to accurately hit a receiver downfield (consistently). He's a conservative player at heart.

The things I like about him are his toughness, he has experience against the best defenses in the nation, and he was able to adapt to a difficult environment once Petrino was gone.

His intangibles are what intrigues me more than anything else because his measureables and athletic ability is below average.

Before I did any work on Wilson I expected to watch a rocket arm. When I didn't see that, plus the other things factored in, I felt he was a 2nd round talent at best.
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:04 AM   #2976
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I don't like that he has an average arm at best. He threw a ton of checkdowns and underneath routes at Arkansas. And often times when he did the ball was thrown behind the receiver on those patent shallow crosses that they abused.

I factored in a mild arm with inconsistent accuracy, and an inability to accurately hit a receiver downfield (consistently). He's a conservative player at heart.

The things I like about him are his toughness, he has experience against the best defenses in the nation, and he was able to adapt to a difficult environment once Petrino was gone.

His intangibles are what intrigues me more than anything else because his measureables and athletic ability is below average.

Before I did any work on Wilson I expected to watch a rocket arm. When I didn't see that, plus the other things factored in, I felt he was a 2nd round talent at best.
It seems like most scouts all have one major gripe with Wilson.
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:14 AM   #2977
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:15 AM   #2978
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Old 02-16-2013, 12:19 AM   #2979
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It seems like most scouts all have one major gripe with Wilson.
Well yeah, there's another problem. But it's not my biggest.
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