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“It's sad for me to hear that he's denying," said one former wrestler. "I don’t know why he would, unless it’s a cover-up."



Rep. Jim Jordan, the powerful Republican congressman from Ohio, is being accused by former wrestlers he coached more than two decades ago at Ohio State University of failing to stop the team doctor from molesting them and other students.

The university announced in April that it was investigating accusations that Dr. Richard Strauss, who died in 2005, abused team members when he was the team doctor from the mid-1970s to late 1990s.

Jordan, who was assistant wrestling coach at the university from 1986 to 1994, has repeatedly said he knew nothing of the abuse until former students began speaking out this spring, and continued to deny it on Tuesday. His denials, however, have been met with skepticism and anger from some former members of the wrestling team.

Three former wrestlers told NBC News that it was common knowledge that Strauss showered regularly with the students and inappropriately touched them during appointments, and said it would have been impossible for Jordan to be unaware; one wrestler said he told Jordan directly about the abuse.

Former head coach Russ Hellickson, Jordan's mentor, said in a recent video — made by Mike DiSabato, a former wrestler — that Hellickson had told Strauss that he was being too "hands on” with students.

DiSabato, whose allegations against Strauss prompted Ohio State to open its investigation, called Jordan a “liar.”

“I considered Jim Jordan a friend,” DiSabato said. “But at the end of the day, he is absolutely lying if he says he doesn’t know what was going on.”

DiSabato said he reached out to Jordan this year, before going to the university, to tell Jordan that he planned to go public with his allegations. Jordan told him to “please leave me out of it,” DiSabato said. “He asked me not to get him involved.”

"At the end of the day, he is absolutely lying if he says he doesn’t know what was going on.”

Dunyasha Yetts, who wrestled at Ohio State in 1993 and 1994, said he and others told Jordan about Strauss.

“I remember I had a thumb injury and went into Strauss’ office and he started pulling down my wrestling shorts,” he said. “I’m like, what the f--- are you doing? And I went out and told Russ and Jim what happened. I was not having it. They went in and talked to Strauss.”

Yetts said he and his teammates talked to Jordan numerous times about Strauss.

“For God’s sake, Strauss’s locker was right next to Jordan’s and Jordan even said he’d kill him if he tried anything with him,” Yetts said.

Yetts admitted that he did time for bilking investors out of nearly $2 million. “I am not a perfect person, but ask any of the wrestlers and they will tell you everybody knew about Doc,” said Yetts, who served 18 months in prison.

As for Jordan, Yetts said, “He’s a great guy. We would have all these great talks with him and he talked about how one day he’d be the president of the United States."

“So it’s sad for me to hear that he’s denying knowing about Strauss," he said. "I don’t know why he would, unless it’s a cover-up. Either you’re in on it, or you’re a liar.”

A former teammate of DiSabato’s who asked not to be identified said he never told Jordan directly that Strauss had abused him. But there is no way Jordan could have avoided the rumors “because it was all over the locker room.”

“I love Jimmy to death,” the ex-wrestler said. “It was a head-scratcher to me why he would say he didn’t know anything. Doc used to take showers with the team even though he didn’t do any workouts, and everybody used to snicker about how you go into his office for a sore shoulder and he tells you to take your pants down.”

When the first stories about the university investigation appeared this spring, Jordan told The Columbus Dispatch, “I had not heard about any type of abuse at all.” He also said that “no one reported any type of abuse” to him.

After NBC News reached out to Jordan, the congressman’s spokesman repeated the denial.

“Congressman Jordan never saw any abuse, never heard about any abuse, and never had any abuse reported to him during his time as a coach at Ohio State,” his spokesman, Ian Fury, said in an email to NBC News.

Shortly after the NBC News story was published, Fury added the following statement: "He has not been contacted by investigators about the matter but will assist them in any way they ask, because if what is alleged is true, the victims deserve a full investigation and justice.”

But Kathleen Trafford of Porter Wright Morris & Arthur, the Dayton, Ohio-based law firm that was appointed as legal counsel to Ohio State, said in a statement that investigators "had previously contacted Rep. Jordan's office by email and phone to request that he participate in an interview."

“To date, Rep. Jordan has not responded to those requests," Trafford wrote. "The investigative team is continuing its efforts to schedule an interview with Rep. Jordan."

Jordan, a founder of the House Freedom Caucus, a group of the most conservative representatives, is a staunch ally of President Donald Trump and is frequently mentioned as a possible replacement for the speaker of the House, Paul Ryan.

Ryan, through his spokesman Doug Andres, also weighed in on the Ohio State investigation and Jordan's role.

"These are serious allegations and issues," Andres said. "The university has rightfully initiated a full investigation into the matter. The speaker will await the findings of that inquiry."

DiSabato forwarded to NBC News an email he sent on April 24 to Jordan and the congressman’s brother, Jeff, who runs Jeff Jordan's State Champ Camp, a nationally known wrestling camp in Ohio. DiSabato sent the email 19 days after Ohio State announced on April 5 that it was investigating Strauss and the administrators of the wrestling program at the time, including the coaches, just as other colleges have done in similar circumstances.

DiSabato was concerned that the university would ultimately sweep his allegations under the rug, and he wanted to ensure that Jordan would back him up.

“I ask you to give your full attention to the information attached to this email,” DiSabato wrote. “We [are] watching you. … You have the platform to cut through the double talk, placation and finger pointing.”

Jordan and his brother did not reply to the email, DiSabato said. Jeff Jordan said in an email that he'd never attended or worked at Ohio State University.

Jim Jordan, who has made a name for himself in Congress by grilling investigators probing alleged collusion by the Trump campaign with the Russians, is among the witnesses expected to be questioned by the law firm that Ohio State hired to conduct the probe into Strauss’ misconduct, officials involved with the investigation said.

In the video that DiSabato made about the allegations against Strauss, which DiSabato sent to Ohio State in June, Hellickson, the former head wrestling coach, said he told school administrators about Strauss and also warned the doctor to steer clear of his wrestlers.

“I said, ‘You make the guys nervous when you shower with them,’” Hellickson said in the video. “His response was, ‘Coach, you shower with your guys all the time.’ And I said, ‘Not for an hour, Doc.’”

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Old 07-09-2018, 12:55 PM   #151
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Old 07-09-2018, 12:56 PM   #152
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The difference between then an now may be nothing more than whether or not an awkward glance is considered abuse from which grown men need to be protected.
Not sure what this has to do with the Jordan allegations, but w/e.
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Pretty sure molesting students was also frowned upon in the 80’s and 90’s.
Speaking up about it then was a different.
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Six former Ohio State University wrestling coaches on Monday issued statements defending Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), who is being accused of failing to protect former wrestlers from sexual abuse by a team doctor while working as a coach there.

“What has been said about Jim Jordan is absolutely wrong,” the half-dozen coaches said in a joint statement. “We all worked on the wrestling coaching staff during Jim’s tenure at The Ohio State University. None of us saw or heard of abuse of OSU wrestlers. The well-being of student-athletes was all of our concern. If we had heard of any abuse, we would have spoken up.”

The former coaches who issued the statement are: Russ Hellickson, former head coach; Dave Ruckman, former assistant coach; Rex Holman, former assistant coach; Ken Chertow, former assistant coach; Myron Kharchilava, former assistant coach; and Kenny Ramsey Jr., former assistant coach.

At least seven former wrestlers have come forward to accuse Jordan of turning a blind eye toward the sexual abuse of student-athletes allegedly committed by team doctor Richard Strauss, who died in 2005.

Jordan has denied knowing about any abuse and has said he would have acted had he been told.

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Speaking up about it then was a different.
Most wrestlers I've known and/or coached would have gone full-on Cassius Clay of some dude doctor randomly sticking his finger in their stink, or sticking their dick in their stink, or reaching around and gabbing their Johnson when it wasn't called for and warned. Not that there aren't times, during a physical, that the package isn't grabbed, but they let you know when that's going to happen and why. If they don't, you take affirmative action.
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Stumpy and the pitchfork crew seem to have skipped right over that recent bit of information. Shocker.
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You choose to believe he's joking anytime he says something like this?

I've seen enough of his work to know he is not. It's very clear from his posts that he thinks women who don't report rape right away are lying whores who are just mad they didn't get what they wanted out of a sexual transaction. Is this how you rationalize away the fact that you (and everyone else here) let him spew this hatred?
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high fiving his disgusting buddy because he votes for the right people.
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high fiving his disgusting buddy because he votes for the right people.
You're still upset. I'll pray for you to find peace with the wonderful POTUS that has been gifted to you.
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Most wrestlers I've known and/or coached would have gone full-on Cassius Clay of some dude doctor randomly sticking his finger in their stink, or sticking their dick in their stink, or reaching around and gabbing their Johnson when it wasn't called for and warned. Not that there aren't times, during a physical, that the package isn't grabbed, but they let you know when that's going to happen and why. If they don't, you take affirmative action.
Because assaulting someone in a position of authority always ends well.
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What kind of abuse was this?
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Because assaulting someone in a position of authority always ends well.
Nice take on life there pal! You can't be afraid to defend yourself man...
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You can stop seeking my validation now. You won't get it.
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Because assaulting someone in a position of authority always ends well.
Decking someone that tries to sexually abuse you= assault.

This is what you just said.
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You can stop seeking my validation now. You won't get it.
I'm not looking for your validation, I'm looking for you to acknowledge how you personally perpetuate the world being full of shitty people like GD by excusing his behavior because of who he votes for.

Do you have a wife and/or daughters? Why don't you ask them what they think of GD's Harvey Weinstein thoughts? Jesus.
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I'm not looking for your validation, I'm looking for you to acknowledge how you personally perpetuate the world being full of shitty people like GD by excusing his behavior because of who he votes for.

Do you have a wife and/or daughters? Why don't you ask them what they think of GD's Harvey Weinstein thoughts? Jesus.
I think Harvey is an asshole, what's your point? If he's convicted of rape I hope he's shot in the head. Are you angered that I also pointed out the fact that, probably, many of the women he ****ed are ****ing stupid Hollyweird whores too? You know the type, the ones who are more than happy to **** the boss/trade the pleasures of their vagina for a part in a movie...

Sheesh, do YOU have kids? If so, what have you taught them about going to a boss's, or potential boss'es bedroom to "talk"? And if you tell them that going to the boss's/potential boss's bedroom is a jolly-good idea, if they choose to have romantic relations, have you told them that waiting many years, perhaps a decade, then complaining might garner even more cash?

That's NOT how I raised my sons BTW.

Edit: You thinking I'd defend a Hollyweird liberal is funny. I'm defending "menkind" from an out-of-hand" process where a chick can complain about something from decades ago, have no proof, and have a man fired based on said unproven accusation and having like-minded men-haters join the pile-on. IOW, I'd be a lot happier with all of this if is wasn't centered out of sin-city Hollyweird, they had actual proof, they didn't wait to accuse the accused for years (or when the accused is on the rise), and idiots don't question the motives or demand proof.
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