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Old 08-28-2014, 08:54 PM  
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I was standing inside my children’s public elementary school cafeteria, or “cantine” as the French call it, in our local town near Annecy, France. As part of my research into why French kids aren’t fat, the local city council gave me a tour of the public school’s cantine and kitchen and let me ask any question that came to mind.

There are many theories as to why the French, and French children in particular, do not suffer from weight problems, obesity, diabetes, and hypertension like their American counterparts. Eating moderate quantities of fresh and freshly prepared food at set times of the day is definitely one of the most convincing reasons why they stay lean. Daily exercise, in the form of three recess periods (two 15-minute and one 60-minute recess every day) and walking or biking to and from school, is another.

What do French kids eat?

Menus are set up two months in advance by the cantine management staff, and then sent to a certified dietitian who makes small “corrections.” The dietitian might take out a small chocolate éclair and replace it with a kiwi for dessert if she thinks there's too much sugar that week. Or she may modify suggested menus by adding more or fewer carbohydrates, vegetables, fruits, or protein to keep the balance right.

Almost all foods are prepared right in the kitchen; they’re not ready-made frozen. This means mashed potatoes, most desserts, salads, soups, and certainly the main dishes are prepared daily. Treats are included — the occasional slice of tarte, a dollop of ice cream, a delicacy from the local pastry shop.


First course: Cucumber and tomato salad

Main course: Veal marinated with mushrooms, broccoli

Cheese

Dessert: Apple tart



First course: Cabbage and tomato salad

Main course: Roast beef, potatoes, baked tomatoes with herbs

Cheese

Dessert: Kiwi



First course: Tabouleh (made with bulgur)

Main course: Sausages, zucchini

Dessert: Ice cream, apple



First course: Potato and pickle salad

Main course: Breaded fish, cauliflower

Cheese

Dessert: Peach

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Where does the food come from?

“All our fruits, vegetables, fish and meat are sourced locally, some of them from local farms,” according to Dany Cahuzac, the city counselor in charge of school matters, including the cantine. The local bakery delivers bread, a staple of every French meal, fresh every morning. And every two days, there is at least one organic item on the menu. Once a month, an entirely organic meal is served. The only drink offered at lunchtime is filtered tap water, served in glass pitchers.

Just as important: how the kids eat.

As the children come streaming into the cantine, they sit down at tables of four that are already set and wait for older student volunteers to bring the first course to their table. The child who sits at the designated “red” chair is the only one who is allowed to get up to fetch more water in the pitcher, extra bread for the bread basket, or to ask for extra food for the table. After finishing the first course (often a salad), volunteers bring the main course platter to the table and the children serve themselves. A cheese course follows (often a yogurt or small piece of Camembert, for example), and then dessert (more often than not, fresh fruit).
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Old 08-29-2014, 10:27 AM   #91
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That's why the divide to be focused on shouldn't be Dem/Rep or even Red/Blue. It should be organized power versus individual preference.
Or black/white...

Or gay/hetero...

Or, or, or...

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Old 08-29-2014, 10:28 AM   #92
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How many smoke breaks do they get? They should also trade that 60 minute exercise for a 15 minute shower, a 30 minute wine break, and 15 minutes to smoke and say smug things under their breath about fat stupid Americans.
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Old 08-29-2014, 10:31 AM   #93
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How many smoke breaks do they get? They should also trade that 60 minute exercise for a 15 minute shower, a 30 minute wine break, and 15 minutes to smoke and say smug things under their breath about fat stupid Americans.
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Old 08-29-2014, 10:49 AM   #94
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Yup! IIRC, the standard enforced by govt for organic is not as strict either. I wouldn't doubt they were behind that too.
Right. Not as strict but more red tape and costly bullshit involved.
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Old 08-29-2014, 10:50 AM   #95
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Had cucumber marinated in Nordstrom's Cherry Balsamic Vinegar and Cracked Pepper Melange. Heavenly.

I can't even find where on earth you can find Nordstrom's Cherry Balsamic Vinegar for sale in a bottle. They use it in their restaurant. But they had 3 bottles at Cargo Largo and I snatched them.
The only thing I could think of would be to try to mix it up yourself. It can be kind of a pain the ass matching the ingredients though. I love a dressing based on olive oil and vinegar myself, and you can get a cruet in most grocery stores.
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The only thing I could think of would be to try to mix it up yourself. It can be kind of a pain the ass matching the ingredients though. I love a dressing based on olive oil and vinegar myself, and you can get a cruet in most grocery stores.
I usually do balsamic or apple cider vinegar, fresh onions, and black pepper.

Nothing elaborate really but that's the way I like my cucumbers.
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I usually do balsamic or apple cider vinegar, fresh onions, and black pepper.

Nothing elaborate really but that's the way I like my cucumbers.

I make a pretty hearty salad. Cucumbers, sesame seeds, whole roasted peanuts, finely cubed mozzarella, minced jalapenos, sliced sweet peppers, cherry tomatoes and occasionally I'll throw in something that looks good from the produce department. I tend to use Italian dressing but any vinaigrette will do. In the Summer I'll make about one pound, and in the Winter two pounds. I eat that for breakfast on the four days a week that I work.
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I make a pretty hearty salad. Cucumbers, sesame seeds, whole roasted peanuts, finely cubed mozzarella, minced jalapenos, sliced sweet peppers, cherry tomatoes and occasionally I'll throw in something that looks good from the produce department. I tend to use Italian dressing but any vinaigrette will do. In the Summer I'll make about one pound, and in the Winter two pounds. I eat that for breakfast on the four days a week that I work.
Holy shit, that's a freaking meal. Sounds good though.
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Total hijack from the original intent of this thread, but it's topical with one of the side discussions we've been having. Just saw this article come up in facebook feed:

It's pretty typical (although this one has a huge amount of money involved, so it's getting more play) of the type of funneling of public dollars into private corporations that's occurring everywhere in education with the pushing of the CCSS and school "reform."
http://www.npr.org/blogs/ed/2014/08/...ntent=20140827
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The LA School iPad Scandal: What You Need To Know

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August 27, 2014 3:32 AM ET

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Los Angeles Unified School District Superintendent John Deasy exchanged multiple emails with executives at Pearson PLC about the potential for working together.

Los Angeles Unified School District Superintendent John Deasy exchanged multiple emails with executives at Pearson PLC about the potential for working together.
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A massive expansion of classroom technology has come to a grinding halt in Los Angeles.

The LA Unified School District had planned to buy some 700,000 iPads for its students and teachers. The Apple tablets would include learning software built by publishing giant Pearson. But Superintendent John Deasy announced earlier this week he is canceling the contract and restarting the bidding process.

The decision comes on the heels of an investigation by NPR member station KPCC, which obtained emails between Deasy and tech executives that bring into question whether the initial bidding process was fair. First, some context:

The goal of the expansion was simple yet ambitious: to equip every student in the nation's second-largest school district with a tablet computer. The expected price tag for equipment, software and Wi-Fi upgrades to schools: $1.3 billion.

The project has been controversial from the outset. Critics argued that it was too expensive in a time of dramatic budget cuts. Some also worried that the that the software wasn't finished and had glitches, and that the district's infrastructure,

Then came the emails.

"Looking forward to further work together for our youth in Los Angeles!" Deasy wrote to Marjorie Scardino, then Pearson's CEO, on May 22, 2012, after hearing an initial pitch over lunch.

"Dear John, It's I who should thank you," Scardino replied. "I really can't wait to work with you."

KPCC reports these notes were going back and forth long before the tech contract was ultimately opened for competitive bidding:

found Deasy and his deputies communicated with Pearson employees over pricing, teacher training and technical support — specifications that later resembled the district's request for proposals from vendors. Pearson and Apple emerged as the winning bidders and were awarded the now-abandoned contract in June 2013.

After the emails were published, school board member Steve Zimmer questioned whether the district stifled competition.

"We're dealing with hundreds of millions of dollars of taxpayer money. We have to make sure this is completely ethical and above board," he said.

Other key findings from the KPCC investigation:

Jaime Aquino, the district's former head of curriculum, expressed reservations about the cost, infrastructure readiness and timing of the iPad/Pearson plan.
Deasy personally pitched Apple on the Pearson partnership.
Pearson's charitable foundation subsidized a training session for 50 LAUSD employees at a poolside resort and gave participants free iPads.
Pearson's sales representative, Judy Codding, argued against a request for proposals, the key part of a competitive bidding process: "I don't know why there would have to be an RFP."

While the bidding process has been restarted, the district had already bought about 75,000 iPads, roughly half of which were loaded with Pearson's educational software. And, KPCC reports, that software is unfinished and problematic:

A year after the purchase, the software on LA Unified iPads still doesn't include many of the simulations, games and interactive tools promised. Officials gave Pearson until November to deliver the finished product.

Also, California education officials have only approved Pearson's math courses for grades kindergarten through eighth grade. And the state found errors in every grade, from simple problems, like typos, to bigger issues, like learning standards that were not correctly applied.

The digital expansion in LA was meant to correspond with California's adoption and implementation of the . As KPCC reports, the district Deasy took over needed serious help, and not simply with that Core rollout:

He had inherited a school system in crisis: Thousands of Los Angeles teachers, counselors and librarians had lost their jobs during the recession; fewer than half of students were reading at grade level; more than 10,000 dropped out of high school every year. For Deasy, transformation was not just possible; it was an urgent mandate.

Deasy would not comment for this story. But he told KPCC in May 2012:

"I'm not going to be interested in looking at third-graders and saying, 'Sorry, this is the year you don't learn to read,' or to juniors and saying, 'You don't get to graduate.' So the pace needs to be quick, and we make no apologies for that."
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Total hijack from the original intent of this thread, but it's topical with one of the side discussions we've been having. Just saw this article come up in facebook feed:

It's pretty typical (although this one has a huge amount of money involved, so it's getting more play) of the type of funneling of public dollars into private corporations that's occurring everywhere in education with the pushing of the CCSS and school "reform."
http://www.npr.org/blogs/ed/2014/08/...ntent=20140827
By the way, that isn't uncommon in the public or private sector.

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The only thing I could think of would be to try to mix it up yourself. It can be kind of a pain the ass matching the ingredients though. I love a dressing based on olive oil and vinegar myself, and you can get a cruet in most grocery stores.
I always loved grandma's cucmbers marinaded in regular vinegar and black pepper, and the Nordstoms was sitting next to the vinegar and thought hmmmm. Very good decision, put more in the fridge.
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