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***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.


Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.


The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.


Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.



The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:



* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.



The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.


The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.


The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.


The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.



The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
— Bernie

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Old 04-24-2013, 08:48 AM   #526
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Garcia vs. Strasburg today, hope to complete the sweep!
A sweep for the Cards is as rare as a 3 up 3 down save. Maybe rarer.

They can win series like mad, sweep someone? Almost never.
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Old 04-24-2013, 02:05 PM   #527
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A sweep for the Cards is as rare as a 3 up 3 down save. Maybe rarer.

They can win series like mad, sweep someone? Almost never.
Both of these things just occurred, happy to be wrong!
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He's throwing strikes just missing location and giving up too many hits for someone throwing 100 mph. I think we should give the job to him if Mujica doesn't shine. He has the upside. Let him learn on the job.
You've been trying to give Rosenthal a job he's done nothing to earn all season. You don't "learn on the job" in major league baseball.

Yet again today he gave up hard contact on an elevated fastball.

He should be in the minors learning to pitch. This is going to become a self-fulfilling prophecy whereby we force him into the pen by failing keep him stretched out this year and not giving him a chance to develop his secondary offerings.

I hate how we're handling Rosenthal. I just absolutely hate it.
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Still looking to move heaven and earth to put Rosenthal in at closer?

Comes in with men on 2nd and third, hits a guy and then walks the run in. Yeah - this is definitely a guy we should be letting 'learn on the job'.

Send the damn kid to Memphis already.
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Why the hell didn't they bring out Westbrook for the 7th? He was at 91 ****ing pitches.
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Why the hell didn't they bring out Westbrook for the 7th? He was at 91 ****ing pitches.
Can't be too hard on Matheny for that; Westbrook's 7th inning implosions are as sure as the sunrise.

There's something to be said for giving Kelly a clean inning to work with. Kelly had the bottom of the lineup and nobody on to contend with - he just kicked it.

This one's on the players.
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Poor defensive play on a tough ball costs us a DP and a run.
He acted almost like he thought McCutchen was running.

He had the time to look that ball in and get it over to Kozma but he got way too hurried and turned before he caught it. Just a little to anxious from a normally steady defender there in Descalso.
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Can't be too hard on Matheny for that; Westbrook's 7th inning implosions are as sure as the sunrise.

There's something to be said for giving Kelly a clean inning to work with. Kelly had the bottom of the lineup and nobody on to contend with - he just kicked it.

This one's on the players.
That struck me as a "Keep him in til the first runner reaches" type of inning.

Sadly, not having Mujica in the 7th is what allowed that to get out of hand.
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That struck me as a "Keep him in til the first runner reaches" type of inning.

Sadly, not having Mujica in the 7th is what allowed that to get out of hand.
If anyone ever tries to argue the ol' "closer by committee" there are mountains of evidence I can give them to show how poorly it actually works in practice.

And with the 2013 St. Louis Cardinals, we have yet another example.

Great bullpens need a dominant closer and everyone else needs to know they're role. BPBC simply does not work because guys like Boggs start to flip out in the 9th, Rosenthal comes in overthrowing in the 7th, etc...

Give them their roles, leave them in them.
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If anyone ever tries to argue the ol' "closer by committee" there are mountains of evidence I can give them to show how poorly it actually works in practice.

And with the 2013 St. Louis Cardinals, we have yet another example.

Great bullpens need a dominant closer and everyone else needs to know they're role. BPBC simply does not work because guys like Boggs start to flip out in the 9th, Rosenthal comes in overthrowing in the 7th, etc...

Give them their roles, leave them in them.
Wasn't speaking to that as much as the implosion of Boggs and others that forced Mujica from the 7th to the 9th.
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