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Old 10-18-2013, 01:55 AM  
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Rank the Chiefs 2014 draft needs

Mine:

QB - Obviously.

OLB - Hali won't play forever and we need to be ready for that contingency. I keep anticipating his fall from glory and he keeps being a monster.

RB - I wouldn't count on Charles being the man next year, after the punishment he has taken this year. I was never really high on Knile Davis, and he still has ball security issues that plagued him at Arkansas.

WR - Obviously, receivers aren't getting sufficient separation for our current QB. If we get a new QB, he will need a second option.

DL - Jackson/Devito are adequate but Jackson is on a one year deal. Catapano is looking promising, but we still lack depth.

OL - I don't think personnel is the issue here, but something CLEARLY has to change to make it work.

ILB - DJ isn't getting any younger and we would be a hurting unit if he were injured. Jordan is on a one-year deal. I do love what Nico brings to the table, but he really doesn't fill DJ's role.

CB - We need someone to replace Dunta next year

S - Well, I can't complain about this position, but it had to get in here somehow. I hope we re-sign Abdullah and Demps, though.
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Old 10-18-2013, 04:49 AM   #2
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So pretty much we need everything except a new punter and kicker?
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Old 10-18-2013, 05:21 AM   #3
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Old 10-18-2013, 11:56 AM   #4
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WR, CB, OLB, ILB, OL in that order.
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Old 10-18-2013, 12:31 PM   #5
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So pretty much we need everything except a new punter and kicker?
I was ranking every position based on level of need. I would say we need everything except kicker, punter and safety.
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Old 10-18-2013, 01:23 PM   #6
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QB -- but the right one; don't be desperate.

DE -- Jackson and DeVito are nice players but if you can get someone that can also get serious push from the front alongside Poe....Christ on a cracker, this defense would be unstoppable. I wouldn't even be opposed to drafting another NT and making Poe a DE in this scheme but I would want it to be a Gerald McCoy/Suh type of NT - an athlete.

OLB -- Defense is now about disrupting the pass. I believe we should treat this position about how I used to think about CBs - draft one every single year and if he sticks, outstanding. Hali's not getting younger and this defense clicks because of the dual threat at OLB. We have to keep that intact.

RB -- I don't like what I see in Davis, Charles has 2 years left and I don't like giving big $$ deals to RBs in their late 20s. We need a dynamic RB that can break big plays and catch the ball out of the backfield. A guy like Giovani Bernard would be ideal.

WR -- I think Bowe will bounce back next year (maybe even this year) and I like Avery. I still think Hemingway can start in this league. That said, the WRs look awful right now; we need to keep trying until something clicks.

ILB -- Need to be on the lookout for the next DJ; he's going to start showing some wear pretty soon.
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Old 10-18-2013, 01:41 PM   #7
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OL- Jeff Allen is an abortion. Eric Fisher is an abortion. The cap may dictate that we have to let Branden Albert walk, which would be an abortion. This really sucks, because OL is possibly the youngest unit as a whole on the team, and where we should be loading up on young guys to replace the old guys, we're forced to keep stocking the wells with more inexperienced youth. It's either that or we do a reprise of what we have right now. May need to look to free agency for this one and find a bunch of Geoff Schwartzes, if there are any out there.

TE- Wasn't too impressed by Kelce in his preseason games before the injury. Depending on him could prove to be foolish and put us back in the same position we're in right now.

RB- For reasons other people have said

WR- For obvious reasons

CB- Should be targeted in the later rounds, since all we need is some more depth after we cut Robinson's worthless ass.

I'm not too worried about the DL or LB at this stage. Dezmon Moses has yet to show us what he can do because (knock on wood) Houston and Hali have been 100% healthy so far, but I think he's very good depth at that position for now. Hali and DJ still got a couple of years left... we don't want to draft a guy and have him rot on the bench the entire time. Let's see if we can work around the problem by using the later rounds and rookie free agency to land another miracle steal.
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Old 10-18-2013, 02:07 PM   #8
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1. QB
2. QB
3. QB
4. QB
5. QB

This year IS THE PERFECT YEAR for us to take a QB early.

Give him a year under Contract Year Alex Smith.

If Smith flourishes, keep him on a while longer. If not, give the new kid a start.

Other than that, we'll need to invest at WR and OL, assuming we keep Jackson.
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Old 10-18-2013, 03:34 PM   #9
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Not just becaus of skin color, but it think tahj Boyd could be our mcnabb. I love that dude as a qb
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Old 10-18-2013, 05:27 PM   #10
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You dudes are ****ing nuts.

They ain't looking at a QB no how, no way.

Smith is five years minimum. Reid and Dorsey love the guy and he's a solid player at the position. (e.g., You know what the difference between the 6-0 Chiefs and 2-4 Texans is? Interceptions. Smith doesn't throw them.)

Bray is the guy that you all want them to sign - big arm, physical attributes, etc. He needs to be coached but he's exactly what all of you want in a prospect QB, and guess what? They signed that guy.

Herp derp.

You guys have to let it go. There is a little thing called reality that you should really think about embracing.
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Old 10-18-2013, 06:05 PM   #11
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First off, this is a list of individuals opinions about the Chiefs draft needs. Second of all, you are totally full of shit.

I need a reality check when you are saying that Bray is a perfect QB prospect? I need a reality check when you are saying Smith has 5 years of job security?
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Old 10-18-2013, 09:10 PM   #12
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First off, this is a list of individuals opinions about the Chiefs draft needs. Second of all, you are totally full of shit.

I need a reality check when you are saying that Bray is a perfect QB prospect? I need a reality check when you are saying Smith has 5 years of job security?
I never said Bray was perfect. However, he's got the tools that you want in terms of grooming a guy into a system. And that's a two to four year deal. And that's what you do with your third string rookie QB - you groom him into the system.

And yeah, Smith is here for a minimum of five years.

So, all of you still wishing for a guy like Jimmy Clausen in the first - it's not going to happen. At least for while.

They signed a rookie with potential in Bray. You want them to draft another guy this next year and then who are you getting rid of? It sure as shit isn't going to be either Smith or Daniel. So, you want to dump the dude who everyone was on his jock for come draft time for another rookie who's just going to get groomed again? And rinse and repeat for the next five years?

Yeah, get a reality check on that shit.
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Old 10-18-2013, 09:12 PM   #13
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I never said Bray was perfect. However, he's got the tools that you want in terms of grooming a guy into a system. And that's a two to four year deal. And that's what you do with your third string rookie QB - you groom him into the system.

And yeah, Smith is here for a minimum of five years.

So, all of you still wishing for a guy like Jimmy Clausen in the first - it's not going to happen. At least for while.

They signed a rookie with potential in Bray. You want them to draft another guy this next year and then who are you getting rid of? It sure as shit isn't going to be either Smith or Daniel. So, you want to dump the dude who everyone was on his jock for come draft time for another rookie who's just going to get groomed again? And rinse and repeat for the next five years?

Yeah, get a reality check on that shit.
Daniel nets significant cap savings if we cut him next year. Further, Alex Smith will be on a short leash if his shitty production continues.
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Old 10-18-2013, 10:30 PM   #14
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Daniel nets significant cap savings if we cut him next year. Further, Alex Smith will be on a short leash if his shitty production continues.
No way.

He had a bad game. They all have bad games. And he didn't cost them turnovers in a bad game. And he picked up crucial first downs with his feet when he wasn't throwing well.

Smith has himself on a short enough leash not to worry about Reid putting one on him. And I bet Reid and Dorsey like such games from Smith. Didn't cost them a win and probably drives down the price of his next contract. I think that these guys are smart enough to understand that they are going to need to sign a lot of guys in order to keep this ship going forward and sinking Rogers or Manning or Flacco money into a singular position isn't going to help the team long term. Smith won't be demanding that level of money for a long term deal.

Daniel was signed to be what he is. I seriously doubt he's going anywhere either.

And Bray is the long term project.
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Old 10-18-2013, 10:39 PM   #15
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Whatever. Anyone saying Smith has 5 years of job security based on his performance thusfar needs their head checked.
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