Geno Smith fans roll call

[RealSNR]

NEW THREAD HEADER (11/17/12):

The list is gone. We will all be Geno Smith fans when he gets drafted by the Chiefs. For historical documentation's sake, I'll keep the list in a separate post on this thread: http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=3314

WHY GENO SMITH?
If you're wondering if Geno Smith is right for you, check out this brilliant post by Saccopoo:

http://www.chiefsplanet.com/BB/showp...postcount=5388

Next, we have a few GIFs you may be interested in from the Oklahoma game. Insane potential. These are the elite throws that very few QBs can make. What more can I say? Geno Smith can be a franchise QB in the NFL, and the Chiefs need to take a shot on him.

GIF #1:

Spoiler!

GIF #2:

Spoiler!

GIF #3 (My favorite):

Spoiler!

HOW DO WE GET HIM HERE?

Glad you asked. I posted this checklist earlier. It probably belongs in the thread header, and will be updated as the Chiefs close out their season and start a new chapter in their franchise story.

Preparing for Geno Smith's Arrival In KC Checklist

1. [X] Lose games and acquire the #1 overall pick
2. [X] Get Pioli and the Patriot Way cronies the **** out
3. [X] Hire new GM/coach

OPTIONAL (but highly recommended):
4. [ ] Re-sign/tag Bowe, who really wants to play in KC with Geno
5. [ ] Re-sign/tag Albert

[ChiefSuspect]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

:insert snarky Arrowhead Pride/Gang Signs comment here:

I think Geno's race is a detractor for him. There just haven't been that many true pro-style/pure passer black QBs (Leftwich? JaPorky?) and people are slow to adjust.

Different is weird, and weird is bad (for most).

Well that's just blatantly racist. I guess you missed what Russell Wilson and Robert Griffin did this season.

Warren Moon? Donovan McNabb? Steve McNair?

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by ChiefSuspect

Well that's just blatantly racist. I guess you missed what Russell Wilson and Robert Griffin did this season.

Warren Moon? Donovan McNabb? Steve McNair?

and you are just stupid.

are any of them pocket passers?

[ChiefSuspect]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

and you are just stupid.

are any of them pocket passers?

Moon, McNabb, and McNair were. Just because you can run doesn't automatically preclude you from being a pocket passer. Wilson and Griffin are both scramblers, but had a lot of success passing. Griffin had 5 interceptions, for Christ's sakes.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by ChiefSuspect

Moon, McNabb, and McNair were. Just because you can run doesn't automatically preclude you from being a pocket passer. Wilson and Griffin are both scramblers, but had a lot of success passing. Griffin had 5 interceptions, for Christ's sakes.

griffin and wilson arent pure pocket passers.

if you think so you are and idiot

[hometeam]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

From what I've seen? Yeah. Now, I didn't watch every single throw Smith made in college (like I did with Gabbert). But I have seen enough to feel confident Geno is a better prospect overall.

He doesn't match Gabbert's physical ability, not quite. But he gets more out of what he has than Gabbert. Size is similar. Smith isn't probably as straight-line fast, but he's much craftier in the pocket and uses his mobility better. Arm strength is an edge to Gabbert, but Smith's is still very good.

Biggest differences are pocket presence/accuracy. Smith has them in spades. Gabbert didn't.

I also watched all of Gabbert. Geno is ten times the QB that Gabbert was. When Gabbert decided to come out I knew it was based on where he would go on the draft, not on how well he would do in the NFL.

Gabbert pretty much sucked ass compared to Geno.

[ChiefSuspect]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

griffin and wilson arent pure pocket passers.

if you think so you are and idiot

Shifting the goal posts now, aren't we. They're good quarterbacks. That's the point. The moron above openly doubted whether a black player can be a good quarterback.

Please tell me you aren't so dense as to agree with him.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by ChiefSuspect

Shifting the goal posts now, aren't we. They're good quarterbacks. That's the point. The moron above openly doubted whether a black player can be a good quarterback.

Please tell me you aren't so dense as to agree with him.

You have some serious reading comprehension fail.

[BigCatDaddy]

Originally Posted by ChiefSuspect

Shifting the goal posts now, aren't we. They're good quarterbacks. That's the point. The moron above openly doubted whether a black player can be a good quarterback.

Please tell me you aren't so dense as to agree with him.

Are you referring to Duncan? If so go back and read what he said again. I think you misunderstood.

[ChiefSuspect]

Originally Posted by Nightfyre

You have some serious reading comprehension fail.

No.

There just haven't been that many true pro-style/pure passer black QBs

That was his incredibly moronic comment. I pointed to three right off the bat who were successful "pro-style/pure passer" black quarterbacks. Wilson and Griffin are also very good passers, though they rely heavily on scrambling. They're certainly no Michael Vick, who was actually a terrible quarterback who happened to have a cannon arm and be able to run.

Thanks for trying, though.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by ChiefSuspect

The moron above openly doubted whether a black player can be a good quarterback.

No he didn't. He was talking about other people and their perception of black QBs. Not his own. And I think he's probably correct. Black QBs are often talked about in different terms than white QBs, with more focus placed on their athleticism than their skill set and in general more questioning of their intelligence and their work ethic. It's better than it used to be, but there's still a ways to go.

[ChiefSuspect]

Originally Posted by keg in kc

No he didn't. He was talking about other people and their perception of black QBs. Not his own. And I think he's probably correct. Black QBs are often talked about in different terms than white QBs, with more focus placed on their athleticism than their skill set and in general more questioning of their intelligence and their work ethic. It's better than it used to be, but there's still a ways to go.

I know what he's doing. It's still an inherently racist point. The fact that there haven't been many black quarterbacks overall clouds his judgment of the proportion that are pure passers. It's much higher than he thinks.

[duncan_idaho]

Originally Posted by ChiefSuspect

Well that's just blatantly racist. I guess you missed what Russell Wilson and Robert Griffin did this season.

Warren Moon? Donovan McNabb? Steve McNair?

I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I was saying that racism is holding Smith's perception back.

People are used to stud black QBs being able to be running threats (Griffin, Wilson, McNabb, McNair - all guys with great quickness or speed or escapability or all three). When they see one who is a pure pocket passer like Smith, that racism comes in. Despite the fact that Smith is MUCH MUCH more accurate than Wilson or Glennon, people have a hard time buying it because he's black.

[Nightfyre]

Originally Posted by ChiefSuspect

I know what he's doing. It's still an inherently racist point. The fact that there haven't been many black quarterbacks overall clouds his judgment of the proportion that are pure passers. It's much higher than he thinks.

His point is that many people are subconsciously racist and that it influences their ability to objectively assess Geno Smith, whom he supports. You are a raging dumbass who has been told this by about 35 different posters.

[ChiefSuspect]

Originally Posted by duncan_idaho

I think you misunderstood what I was saying. I was saying that racism is holding Smith's perception back.

People are used to stud black QBs being able to be running threats (Griffin, Wilson, McNabb, McNair - all guys with great quickness or speed or escapability or all three). When they see one who is a pure pocket passer like Smith, that racism comes in. Despite the fact that Smith is MUCH MUCH more accurate than Wilson or Glennon, people have a hard time buying it because he's black.

Oh, okay. You're right. My apologies.

[keg in kc]

Originally Posted by ChiefSuspect

I know what he's doing.

You obviously don't.

Originally Posted by ChiefSuspect

Oh, okay. You're right. My apologies.

Okay, now you do.