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Old 11-02-2012, 06:33 PM  
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If Obama wins

I have a sinking feeling in my gut that he will win. My question to the Obots is where do we go from here?

The house will remain republican. And I expect the senate to be dem but not to the extent it is now. Harry Reid is a complete disaster as a leader and that wont change

How will Obama change in his second administration that will accomplish anything?

Business big and small has no positives to look forward to and in my opinion will settle in for 4 years of hell, freeze any plans to invest or expand and gird themselves for massive regulatory expansion. Banks are already moving to deal with Dodd Frank and that hits directly at the working class

What can we look forward to that is positive under another Obama term? He had divided oud country beyond any expectation. Will he even try to unite us?
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Old 11-02-2012, 06:36 PM   #2
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Old 11-02-2012, 06:39 PM   #3
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Old 11-02-2012, 06:39 PM   #4
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None of that matters, he is a token and nothing more. If the dems were capable of reason or logic, they wouldn't be dems anymore. They act on strictly an emotional basis, it makes them feel good to have obama in office, so therefore they blindly vote for him. Whatever consequences happen will not matter, it will be someone else's fault.
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Old 11-02-2012, 06:42 PM   #5
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Old 11-02-2012, 06:44 PM   #6
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I have a sinking feeling in my gut that he will win. My question to the Obots is where do we go from here?
I'll try but I expect to be ridiculed by the r's for it.

  • Throw the tea party out. The extreme part of your party should not rule the party.
  • Those representives pledged to Norver need to remember who they are really pledged to.... the consitution and the people they represent. Those Bush tax cuts are history.
  • The Dems need to embrace entitlement reform. put a time limit on living on the goernment dole. Obama will have to deal with his extreme part of his party.
  • Work on tax incentives for small businesses.


We need a "grand bargain" to set us on sane fiscal course. They will need to spread the pain to everyone. Everyone will have to have skin in the game. Both sides of the party lines will need a super majority vote to pass the reform. It cover both political parties from the fall out.
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Old 11-02-2012, 06:47 PM   #7
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What can we look forward to that is positive under another Obama term? He had divided oud country beyond any expectation. Will he even try to unite us?

Continued recovery, continued stock market growth, no wars started on false pretenses.

The divisions are mostly based on phony assertions of Obama being a foreign-born socialist terrorist sympathizer. If the right would drop the nonsense and focus on actual sincerely-held beliefs and issues, we could have a functional government and beneficial 4 years.
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Old 11-02-2012, 06:52 PM   #8
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You thought GWB's 2nd term was a nightmare.....wait n see what this asshole is going to do.

He's already said shit to Russia like "let's just wait til after the election, I'll have more freedom then"

Point is....he's a lame duck and doesn't have to worry about being re-elected. His life is set. He will do whatever the hell he wants and shit will hit the fan.
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Old 11-02-2012, 06:53 PM   #9
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Continued recovery, continued stock market growth, no wars started on false pretenses.

The divisions are mostly based on phony assertions of Obama being a foreign-born socialist terrorist sympathizer. If the right would drop the nonsense and focus on actual sincerely-held beliefs and issues, we could have a functional government and beneficial 4 years.
Even if that's true Obama has 0 to do w/ that.
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This is a great thread hcf.
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You thought GWB's 2nd term was a nightmare.....wait n see what this asshole is going to do.

He's already said shit to Russia like "let's just wait til after the election, I'll have more freedom then"

Point is....he's a lame duck and doesn't have to worry about being re-elected. His life is set. He will do whatever the hell he wants and shit will hit the fan.
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Even if that's true Obama has 0 to do w/ that.
Wow, and it starts already. HFC asked if Obama will even try to unite us. Then here comes d-bag pre-emptively denying him credit for even any hypothetical success. Yeah, its Obama that's divided us, rather than irrational a-holes.
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From my POV we have real issues Serious issues. Business, especially small business is scared to death and big business will hunker down an survive. Debt issues, unemployment, energy And foreign affairs have a lot of peole on edge. Obama wont win by a big margin showing just how divided we are.

If he allows Reid to be the sack of shit we know then we have no hope to move out of where we are. And if Obama continues to ignore the house it is worse

Bottom line for me is can I have any positves to look for when he is reelected? Or are we in for a seige mentality for the next 4 yeats?
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Old 11-02-2012, 07:15 PM   #15
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From my POV we have real issues Serious issues. Business, especially small business is scared to death and big business will hunker down an survive. Debt issues, unemployment, energy And foreign affairs have a lot of peole on edge. Obama wont win by a big margin showing just how divided we are.

If he allows Reid to be the sack of shit we know then we have no hope to move out of where we are. And if Obama continues to ignore the house it is worse

Bottom line for me is can I have any positves to look for when he is reelected? Or are we in for a seige mentality for the next 4 yeats?
Just die please. I'm talking to you and the rest of the boomers.
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