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***Offical 2012 STL Cardinals World Champions Thread ***

St. Louis Cardinals: 7 reasons fans should feel good about 2012

Posted Wednesday, October 24, 2012, at 9:26 PM

St. Louis Cardinals fans are likely feeling deflated after the collapse that put an end to the team's dreams of a World Series repeat, but there is good reason to be excited.

With all of the odds against them, the Cardinals managed to push their 2012 season beyond any anticipated boundary.

Given all of the season's changes and the adversity the team had to fight through, the fact that they played in October at all was an anomaly in itself. On paper, it made sense for the Cardinals to be in the playoffs, but few saw them as a true threat.
As the season continued, even fans began to doubt as they watched the team seemingly crumble in June and July. When the Cardinals finally came to life in September they went 11-5 in the last 16 games of the season to lock up the second Wild Card position in its inaugural year.

That run, despite it's crushing end in Cincinnati in Game 7 of the National League Championship Series, lots of good came from the Cardinals' season and playoff run.
Following in no particular order are 10 reasons Cardinals fans have to be excited about the 2013 season.

Trevor Rosenthal
When rookie fireballer Trevor Rosenthal made his first trip to St. Louis, it was obvious almost instantly that he was something special.
Between his 100 mph fastball and the general inability for almost anyone to hit off of him, he became a huge part of the Cardinals playoff run.

He pitched in a total of 19 regular season games before the 22-year-old rookie from Lee's Summit, Mo. got his first taste of postseason baseball and he put on quite a show.
In 8.2 IP over seven postseason appearances, Rosenthal held opponents to only two hits and no runs.
It's possible that down the stretch he may have already earned his spot in the rotation for 2013.

Shelby Miller
The long-coveted fastball pitching prospect Shelby Miller also made his first trip to St. Louis in 2012 and put on a good show.
In 13.2 IP over six regular season games, Miller surrendered only two runs on nine hits. His postseason performance was more of the same with two runs on four hits in 3.2 IP.

Despite a dismal first half of the season in Memphis, Miller got himself together and still managed to make one major league start before the end of the season -- a very impressive start at that.
Against the Cincinnati Reds in the final game of the regular season, Miller posted 5.2 hitless innings. He gave up no runs and collected his first major league win.

Expect to see a lot more of Miller in St. Louis early in 2013.

Joe Kelly
When Joe Kelly made his major league debut on June 10, few could have guessed the importance he would play throughout the remainder of the 2012 season.
Kelly started 16 games for the Cardinals this season filling in for Jaime Garcia and Lance Lynn, but it was the postseason when he really came through for his teammates.

When starting pitchers struggled time and again in October, it was Kelly who came to their rescue.
In seven postseason appearances, Kelly threw 7.2 innings and surrendered only two runs on six hits. Kelly came through for the Cardinals from the bullpen.
There's a good chance that could be his home in the future.

Mike Matheny
When the Cardinals hired Mike Matheny to take over for Tony LaRussa, many question bringing in a manager with no experience to such a storied franchise.

He had a few hiccups and growing pains along the way, but for a rookie manager to get his team where Matheny did this year speaks volumes.
His players have a strong respect for Matheny and credit his positive style with being a driving force behind their 2012 success.
True, he didn't get them through the NLCS, but the team made it to an all or nothing Game 7. That's good experience for the players obviously, but also for Matheny. Not only did he learn a lot about managing in the media pressure cooker that is postseason baseball, he also got a taste of what it felt like to win as a manager.

NLCS loss means more drive to win
While the NLCS loss was a good lesson for a young manager, it's an even more important lesson for a young player.
The 2011 championship lit a fire under young players like Lance Lynn and Jon Jay. That fire helped drive them to extremely successful sophomore seasons.

What happened in 2012 will likely do the same for Rosenthal, Miller and Kelly. Their 2013 season may not be like Jay or Lynn's 2012, but now they've gotten a little taste of what it feels like to be a winner.

Both the excitement and the public humbling can be a great experience for any young player.

The run was without several key components
In a season riddled with injuries, none were as crucial as those late in the season.
The loss of Lance Berkman and Rafael Furcal significantly weakened the team's bench. Instead of having Pete Kozma, Allen Craig and Matt Carpenter to pinch hit, the team wound up having to use them in the lineup.

The loss of Jaime Garcia and Jake Westbrook also rocked the Cardinals. Instead of having Lynn and Westbrook also available from the bullpen, Lynn was pushed back into the rotation after a very successful NLDS bullpen stint.

Having gotten as deep into the playoffs as the Cardinals did in spite of the injuries is quite the accomplishment.

They did it without Pujols, LaRussa and Duncan
Few in the world of sports gave the Cardinals a fighting chance when Albert Pujols left the team to play on the west coast. Surely this team couldn't be as good as they were?

Few gave them a chance after longtime manager Tony LaRussa decided it was time to retire.
Few gave them a chance after pitching coach Dave Duncan left the team.
The Cardinals did it despite all of that. That's something any fan should be proud of.

No, they didn't hoist a trophy. There will be no parade or tickertape.
What there is, though, is hope for next year and that will come sooner than you may think.
After all, pitchers and catchers report to Spring Training in just four short months.

From a blog I was sent on twitter: http://www.dailystatesman.com/blogs/...es/entry/50051

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Old 09-12-2012, 10:09 AM   #1201
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Going to next Friday's game at Wrigley. Hopefully they can at least beat the ****ing Cubs.
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Old 09-16-2012, 06:42 AM   #1202
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The entire team at this point is anti-clutch. I have NEVER seen a time strike out looking as much with runners on base before. But they sure are good at giving the umpire dirty looks.

And about last night's game, Yadi made possibly the stupidest baserunning decision I have ever seen. Leadoff double yet the dumbass decides he is so awesome that he can stretch it into a triple and gets thrown out. So instead of man on 2nd with no out, we have no one one with one out. Never, ever, ever, ever make the first out at third, especially in the 9th. That's basic baserunning.

Oh and Motte blew another save. I know he hasn't blown as many as I think, but it feels like he has blown like 30 saves.
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A rare extra-innings win tonight. Back with a 1-game lead for the WC spot.
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A rare extra-innings win tonight. Back with a 1-game lead for the WC spot.
Rosenthal from Lee's Summit hit 100 mph in his second inning of work. And he has a curve. Might be some help if Motte falls off the cliff. Although I expect Boggs to get the gig.
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Well, luckily for the Cardinals I have no further plans to attend any more of their ****ing games this year. Lost today at Wrigley, 5-4, after that ****ing prick Salas gave up a game tying homer with two outs and two strikes in the bottom of the 9th. This after sitting in the goddamn rain all afternoon.
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He did save yesterdays game striking out 2 with bases loaded.

If Carp can get back up to speed it would be a fantastic help. You could pitch Waino in the wild card winner take all and then Carp/loshe before waino can go again. That wouldn't be so bad.
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Carp looked pretty good for not having pitched all year. He had one bad inning, but that was it. It was nice to see him out there again.
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Carp looked pretty good for not having pitched all year. He had one bad inning, but that was it. It was nice to see him out there again.
damn man you had some good seats.
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damn man you had some good seats.
Yeah, they were pretty good. Although I would have preferred something farther back considering it rained the entire length of the game.
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Brewers have won 24 of their last 30 games. And the Cards keep blowing 9th inning games to shit teams like the Cubs. I'm not sure we are gonna get that last WC spot.
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He did save yesterdays game striking out 2 with bases loaded.

If Carp can get back up to speed it would be a fantastic help. You could pitch Waino in the wild card winner take all and then Carp/loshe before waino can go again. That wouldn't be so bad.
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You got that right, But, if you remember last year we lost a lot of games at the end that we should have won. The Brewers cant stay this hot forever.

We still got a 2.5 lead. We have 3 more against the astros and 3 at the end against the reds, who should be phoning it in.
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Some news on the injury front. Molina had to leave the game after tweeking his back to try to avoid being hit by a pitch. Jake Westbrook was shut down in a bullpen session after only 10 pitches. He complained of pain in his oblique that he injured on Sep. 8. He may be out the rest of the season. He was much less inconsistent this season.
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You got that right, But, if you remember last year we lost a lot of games at the end that we should have won. The Brewers cant stay this hot forever.
The Rockies led by Holliday roughly 5 years ago stayed hotter than that so it can easily happen.
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