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Old 09-29-2014, 08:58 PM  
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Husain Abdullah Appreciation Thread

This guy doesn't get the credit he deserves. Another great personnel move by Dorsey. Can't believe people didn't think he'd be much of an upgrade over Lewis.
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Old 09-30-2014, 09:36 AM   #106
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You guys want to see just HOW ****ING STUPID Americans are?

Go read through the comments on this article:
https://www.facebook.com/NFLonESPN/p...9801287784908#


People are saying that Muslims shouldn't be in the US, allowed to play football, and that we are lucky that he didn't celebrate his touchdown by blowing up the stadium.

We are born and raised into the brainwashing of Christianity and American patriotism that stomps all over everyone else in the world and it is ****ing sickening.
You should keep your head when it comes to this discussion...
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Old 09-30-2014, 09:38 AM   #107
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It's okay. Roger Goodell will fine Abdullah and then claim that he never saw the footage. Then he'll visit a muslim mosque and claim that he fixed everything. He will then hand out 2 game suspensions for players who don't acknowledge the muslim faith in their TD celebrations. It's cool. Goodell's got this.
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Old 09-30-2014, 09:43 AM   #108
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You should keep your head when it comes to this discussion...
I know Reerun, I know.... but this kind of stupidity just irks me.

We are all born where we are born. By dumb luck, our souls have entered into a vessel somewhere in the world. Anyone born in America instead of some random village in Africa, or some shithole Krokadil infested town in Russia should just consider themselves very fortunate and be a little more appreciative.

But instead, this country breeds and brainwashes people to be 'merica **** yeah! redneck wannabe patriots that don't give a shit about anyone else.
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Old 09-30-2014, 09:55 AM   #109
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I know Reerun, I know.... but this kind of stupidity just irks me.

We are all born where we are born. By dumb luck, our souls have entered into a vessel somewhere in the world. Anyone born in America instead of some random village in Africa, or some shithole Krokadil infested town in Russia should just consider themselves very fortunate and be a little more appreciative.

But instead, this country breeds and brainwashes people to be 'merica **** yeah! redneck wannabe patriots that don't give a shit about anyone else.
Well you could live in a country where you would lose your life if you didn't convert to Islam and support terrorism.

Grass is not always greener....
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Old 09-30-2014, 10:01 AM   #110
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The best play he's made thus far was last night. He followed the QB's eyes and broke on the ball for the interception.

we haven't had that in awhile

Wasn't Abdullah playing at SS last night?

Should be go ahead and make the move and leave him there and move Berry to FS?
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Old 09-30-2014, 10:02 AM   #111
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Sliding on both knees isn't going to the ground?

The ref announced it was for sliding.

Under the new NFL policy, if there is a videotape the NFL will apologize and appoint a commission to investigate. I hear that Tim Tebow will be the new Prayer Czar.
It's a huge difference.

The ref can claim that the act of sliding was penalizable but that the bowing was not. But he can't do that here because it doesn't matter if he slid or not. All that matters is he went to the ground, and the reason for going to the ground was for religious reasons. The NFL firmly stated that you are allowed to go to the ground if it is for religious reasons.
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Old 09-30-2014, 10:03 AM   #112
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It's a huge difference.

The ref can claim that the act of sliding was penalizable but that the bowing was not. But he can't do that here because it doesn't matter if he slid or not. All that matters is he went to the ground, and the reason for going to the ground was for religious reasons. The NFL firmly stated that you are allowed to go to the ground if it is for religious reasons.
So a player can crawl around on the ground for 5 minutes and celebrate anyway he wants as long as he ends it with a prayer?


break out the religious sharpie!!!
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Old 09-30-2014, 10:07 AM   #113
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Well you could live in a country where you would lose your life if you didn't convert to Islam and support terrorism.

Grass is not always greener....
I understand that side too.

This is a Human Race issue, not only an American standpoint issue.

As an American though, it would be nice to see my fellow neighbors not be such idiots.
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Old 09-30-2014, 10:07 AM   #114
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You guys want to see just HOW ****ING STUPID Americans are?

Go read through the comments on this article:
https://www.facebook.com/NFLonESPN/p...9801287784908#


People are saying that Muslims shouldn't be in the US, allowed to play football, and that we are lucky that he didn't celebrate his touchdown by blowing up the stadium.

We are born and raised into the brainwashing of Christianity and American patriotism that stomps all over everyone else in the world and it is ****ing sickening.
Sounds like someone's not a true 'Merican.....
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So a player can crawl around on the ground for 5 minutes and celebrate anyway he wants as long as he ends it with a prayer?


break out the religious sharpie!!!
This is why I ****ing hate Goodell for even making this an issue. There is so much subjectivity to these calls. All I care about us fair enforcement of the rules. What matters most is that the ref made the wrong call and it costed them 15 yards.
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Old 09-30-2014, 10:15 AM   #116
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Refs are human, and they make mistakes, and the NFL acknowledged that, and it didn't change the rather beautiful outcome of the game. I'd say the system worked this time, and we can move on.
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Old 09-30-2014, 10:17 AM   #117
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This is why I ****ing hate Goodell for even making this an issue. There is so much subjectivity to these calls. All I care about us fair enforcement of the rules. What matters most is that the ref made the wrong call and it costed them 15 yards.
Do you really think that if Goodell wasn't the Comish these celebration rules wouldn't have happened?
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Old 09-30-2014, 10:23 AM   #118
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Do you really think that if Goodell wasn't the Comish these celebration rules wouldn't have happened?
Given his love for chasing after shiny objects with no plan in place? Absolutely. I'm sure celebration rules and personal conduct rules would have been put in place. But a good commissioner wouldn't have turned these two things into the circus they are today. If we are talking about non football calls, it is critical that the rules be the same for everyone. When you add subjectivity, you start to give competitive advantage to teams that benefit from certain calls.
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Given his love for chasing after shiny objects with no plan in place? Absolutely. I'm sure celebration rules and personal conduct rules would have been put in place. But a good commissioner wouldn't have turned these two things into the circus they are today. If we are talking about non football calls, it is critical that the rules be the same for everyone. When you add subjectivity, you start to give competitive advantage to teams that benefit from certain calls.
There isn't much subjectivity - stay on your feet, don't use objects and wind it down when the refs give you a warning.
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There isn't much subjectivity - stay on your feet, don't use objects and wind it down when the refs give you a warning.
You can spin a ball but not direct it at an opponent. You can shout in celebration but if it's directed at an opponent, it's taunting. You can't go to the ground, but you can if the ref interprets what you did as religious expression which now, as laz points out, opens the door for using props and doing something ridiculous but making the sign of a cross as if that were religious expression. You can salute but if you do it near an opponent, it can be viewed as unsportsmanlike conduct. Need I go on? In many of these cases, the ref has to determine if the player intended the celebration for something.

The worst part is, this has nothing to do with football. I would rather allow taunting than have teams wrongly penalized because the ref made an incorrect interpretation.
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