Chiefs The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it - Page 59

Fat Elvis · 03-05-2013, 11:03 AM

Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1.

People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily.

What? That is nonsense!

Only in the traditional sense.

I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one.

If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well.

Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you.

If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat.

It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over.

Reid and Dorsey get this.

As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs.

We are being built to win.

We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies.

We are going to win.

And I like it.

B14ckmon · 03-12-2013, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

Never gonna happen. Geno is absolutely going #1. Just not to the Chiefs.

No one is trading with you guy. You are taking your LT.

They will trade with the Jaguars to move up.

saphojunkie · 03-12-2013, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon

No one is trading with you guy. You are taking your LT.

They will trade with the Jaguars to move up.

No one is trading up to #2 when they know that #1 is up for sale. Whoopty shit, you just gave up two firsts and a third! For... star lotuleilei at #2. Because someone else gave up two firsts and a third for Geno Smith at #1.

Why do you ****ing idiots insist on thinking that teams trade with the team that wants to draft their guy? They trade with the team AHEAD of that team. And no one trades to #2 when #1 is for sale.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 03-12-2013, 06:34 PM

Welp, at this point, I hope he somehow ends up with Coach T. Make it rain, football gods.
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B14ckmon · 03-12-2013, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by saphojunkie

No one is trading up to #2 when they know that #1 is up for sale. Whoopty shit, you just gave up two firsts and a third! For... star lotuleilei at #2. Because someone else gave up two firsts and a third for Geno Smith at #1.

Why do you ****ing idiots insist on thinking that teams trade with the team that wants to draft their guy? They trade with the team AHEAD of that team. And no one trades to #2 when #1 is for sale.

The only way they would trade up to #1, is if it cost less than the #2 offer. Why would they need to trade up to #1 to get a guy that isn't being taken by anyone in the top 6?

You are ****ing stupid lol

saphojunkie · 03-12-2013, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon

The only way they would trade up to #1, is if it cost less than the #2 offer. Why would they need to trade up to #1 to get a guy that isn't being taken by anyone in the top 6?

You are ****ing stupid lol

Mr_Tomahawk · 03-13-2013, 11:40 AM

Emory Hunt‏@FBallGameplan

A part of me doesn't feel like Geno Smith gets past #2 w/ Jags, so it wouldn't surprise me to see the Bills try to get that #1 pick from KC

B14ckmon · 03-13-2013, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Emory Hunt‏@FBallGameplan

A part of me doesn't feel like Geno Smith gets past #2 w/ Jags, so it wouldn't surprise me to see the Bills try to get that #1 pick from KC

The biggest hiccup with that, is Reid/Dorsey have to have someone they want that they know can fall to them at #8. Because if they really want Fisher or Joeckel, is isn't happening at #8.

Buckweath · 03-13-2013, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by B14ckmon

The biggest hiccup with that, is Reid/Dorsey have to have someone they want that they know can fall to them at #8. Because if they really want Fisher or Joeckel, is isn't happening at #8.

Lol, Im pretty sure they would love to trade down to #8 or even lower if the value is there in the trade.

B14ckmon · 03-13-2013, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Buckweath

Lol, Im pretty sure they would love to trade down to #8 or even lower if the value is there in the trade.

Big IF. We have 0 indication that the Bills are even looking to trade up for Geno. For all we know they should be looking to trade up in the second round for Nassib, or get a QB in FA.

Alot of the assumptions here are just Chief fans saying what they WANT to have happen.

FlaChief58 · 03-13-2013, 11:50 AM

A part of me doesn't feel like Geno Smith gets past #2 w/ Jags, so it wouldn't surprise me to see the Bills try to get that #1 pick from KC
— Emory Hunt (@FBallGameplan) March 13, 2013

Cannibal · 03-13-2013, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Flachief58

A part of me doesn't feel like Geno Smith gets past #2 w/ Jags, so it wouldn't surprise me to see the Bills try to get that #1 pick from KC
— Emory Hunt (@FBallGameplan) March 13, 2013

Damn, that would be sweet.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-13-2013, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk

Emory Hunt‏@FBallGameplan

A part of me doesn't feel like Geno Smith gets past #2 w/ Jags, so it wouldn't surprise me to see the Bills try to get that #1 pick from KC

I said this last night

Cannibal · 03-13-2013, 11:52 AM

With the Bills dumping Fitz, it's as if they already have a deal worked out.

**DaneMcCloud** · 03-13-2013, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal

With the Bills dumping Fitz, it's as if they already have a deal worked out.

Buddy Nix HAD to dump Fitzgerald after being punked on national radio earlier this week.

Cannibal · 03-13-2013, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Buddy Nix HAD to dump Fitzgerald after being punked on national radio earlier this week.

Haven't heard about that.

03-05-2013, 11:03 AM
Fat Elvis Sexiest Athlete Join Date: Apr 2001 Casino cash: $1621925	The Chiefs are taking Geno #1; bank on it Andy loves him some QBs. And KC has been a bottomless pit of QB suckage. While folks initially freaked out over the ASmith signing (me included), once they locked up Bowe and Albert, it seemed pretty clear that Geno will be the choice at #1. People say you don't draft a QB #1 to sit on the bench, the first pick of the draft isn't a backup QB. They are right. They say ASmith will be the starter, especially given his compensation. They are right. Ummm, does that mean that Geno is being groomed for a year or two behind Alex? Not necessarily. What? That is nonsense! Only in the traditional sense. I think Reid and Dorsey are thinking waaay outside the box on this one. If (when) the Chiefs draft Geno, the whole idea of a "backup" QB will be shook up. "Backup" will be a matter of semantics. "Starting" will be a matter of semantics as well. Reid and Dorsey both see the need for 2 "starting caliber" QBs on a team in today's NFL. San Fran proved beyond a shadow of a doubt last year that it really pays to have 2 QBs on your team who can start for you. If one "starting caliber" QB goes down, you have another "starting caliber" QB ready to be plugged in and the team doesn't miss a beat. It has been repeated ad nauseum on this board that the QB is the most important position in all of football. When you have an offense that is predicated on throwing the football 40+ times a game, you can't afford to have a dropoff in productivity should one of your QBs goes down for a time, otherwise your season is effectively over. Reid and Dorsey get this. As fans, especially Cheifs fans, we need to rethink our conceptions of "backup" and "starting" and realizing we are entering an era of "starting caliber" QBs. We are being built to win. We are being built to win even in the face of adverse contingencies. We are going to win. And I like it.
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