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Old 03-01-2012, 09:08 AM  
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***Official 2012-13 Mizzou football repository thread***

I figured it was time to start the new version of this...

2012 Schedule
April 14: Spring Game
Sept. 1: SE Louisiana
Sept. 8: Georgia
Sept. 15: Arizona State
Sept. 22: at South Carolina
Sept. 29: at Central Florida
Oct. 6: Vanderbilt
Oct. 13: Alabama
Oct. 20: OPEN
Oct. 27: Kentucky*101st HOMECOMING*
Nov. 3: at Florida
Nov. 10: at Tennessee
Nov. 17: Syracuse
Nov. 24: at Texas A&M

Still three games to be released here. I'd expect a mid-major in the Sept. 1 game, a FCS team on Sept. 29, and another mid-major on Nov. 17 (to get a November home game on the schedule).

Committed Recruits:
A list of all players committed to Missouri for the 2013 recruiting class.

*** LB Joe Burkett, Jefferson City
*** ATH Aarion Penton, Christian Brothers (St. Louis)
*** ATH Anthony Sherrils, Hogan Prep (Kansas City)
*** OC Alec Abein SLUH (St. Louis)
**** ATH Chase Abbington, Fort Zumwalt South (St. Louis)
*** OL Harneet Gill, Francis Howell (St. Louis)
*** QB Trent Hosick, Staley (Kansas City)
*** WR J'Mon Moore, Elkins (Missouri City, Tx) Soft verbal - still looking around
*** OT Clay Rhodes, Stillwell (Kansas City)
*** DT Antar Thompson, Richmond Heights (St. Louis)
*** LB Eric Beisel, Rockwood Summit (Fenton, MO).
*** DT A.J. Logan, Rock Bridge (Columbia, MO)
*** QB Eddie Printz, Lassiter (Marietta, GA)
*** DE Nate Crawford, West Florida Tech (Pensacola, FL)
*** DE Marcus Loud, Wheatley (Houston, TX)
*** DT Josh Augusta, Peoria (Peoria, IL)
*** TE Jason Reese, Trinity (Euless, Tx)
*** S SHaun Rupert, Carver (Montgomery, AL)
*** S Duron Singleton, Fresno CC (Fresno, California)
NR DE Charles Harris, Liberty Prep (Kansas City, MO)





Season Notes:
New uniforms to be unveiled at the Spring Game on April 14.

I'll try to be good about maintaining this, though I've set a ridiculous standard for myself.

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Old 09-25-2012, 12:36 PM   #1006
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Pinkel's last three QBs at Mizzou are in the NFL, and he developed a ton of future NFL QBs at Washington. If he's not playing Berkstresser, there's likely a good reason why.
Probably because the kid:

Is inconsistent
Doesn't consistently make good decisions
Takes away a big part of the run game playbook

It's funny how people (especially on PowerMizzou) panic after one quarter season in which Missouri doesn't receive star quarterback play. The Tigers have had almost a decade of strong QB play under Pinkel, with the only exceptions being Year 1, Year 3, and the start of this season. That's a pretty amazing success rate.

Berkstresser has a big arm. But a big arm doesn't a magical offense make...
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:43 PM   #1007
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Probably because the kid:

Is inconsistent
Doesn't consistently make good decisions
Takes away a big part of the run game playbook

It's funny how people (especially on PowerMizzou) panic after one quarter season in which Missouri doesn't receive star quarterback play. The Tigers have had almost a decade of strong QB play under Pinkel, with the only exceptions being Year 1, Year 3, and the start of this season. That's a pretty amazing success rate.

Berkstresser has a big arm. But a big arm doesn't a magical offense make...
Seems to me that the superior competition takes away a big part of the run game playbook. We need a big arm. This bringing a knife to a gunfight shit isn't working.
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Old 09-25-2012, 12:44 PM   #1008
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Franklin is the better QB, I just don't think he is healthy.
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:06 PM   #1009
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The biggest concern I have isn't his health. It's that he took the snap and immediately stood flat-footed again. He should be beyond that by now. It's an entirely unathletic posture, and it slows down everything he does. If I were coaching, I'd have pulled him after the first play. The moment he does that shit, he needs to be benched for the series.
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:09 PM   #1010
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Probably because the kid:

Is inconsistent
Doesn't consistently make good decisions
Takes away a big part of the run game playbook

It's funny how people (especially on PowerMizzou) panic after one quarter season in which Missouri doesn't receive star quarterback play. The Tigers have had almost a decade of strong QB play under Pinkel, with the only exceptions being Year 1, Year 3, and the start of this season. That's a pretty amazing success rate.

Berkstresser has a big arm. But a big arm doesn't a magical offense make...
Franklin isn't a viable runner against SEC defenses.
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:11 PM   #1011
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The biggest concern I have isn't his health. It's that he took the snap and immediately stood flat-footed again. He should be beyond that by now. It's an entirely unathletic posture, and it slows down everything he does. If I were coaching, I'd have pulled him after the first play. The moment he does that shit, he needs to be benched for the series.
Berks did it too against Arizona State. Until proven otherwise, I'm forced to conclude that the flat-footed stance is something that the quarterbacks coach is teaching Mizzou quarterbacks.
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:20 PM   #1012
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Berks did it too against Arizona State. Until proven otherwise, I'm forced to conclude that the flat-footed stance is something that the quarterbacks coach is teaching Mizzou quarterbacks.
hmmm..Interesting thought....Also think that Yost is designing plays to match Franklins strengths(which is the option of running)..maybe design the plays to match Berks strength(which is his arm, a true QB) and he would be better than Franklin.
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:21 PM   #1013
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:24 PM   #1014
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Franklin isn't a viable runner against SEC defenses.
I think that's the long and short of it.

In the SEC you have to be a passer or a runner - Franklin is some hybrid version where he is both but neither.

Newton and Tebow were winners because they were runners, elite, powerful runners. Franklin isn't that. He's not as strong, fast or agile as either of those 2.

Alternatively you can be a strong-armed passer like Bray, Wilson or Murray. Gabbert would have fit this mold. Berkstresser is close if he can develop his decisionmaking.

But Franklin strikes me as stuck in the middle and I don't think you can get away with that unless you're extremely accurate. Connor Shaw looks like that may be the type of QB he is. Chase Daniel could have been very similar to Shaw. You have to hope that Mauck is as well.

Oh, you can also have the most hellacious defense in the world like LSU or Bama and NFL talent everywhere but quarterback, that's one way to go about it.

I just don't see the hybrid passer thing working very well against this kind of competition.
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Old 09-25-2012, 01:30 PM   #1015
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Berks did it too against Arizona State. Until proven otherwise, I'm forced to conclude that the flat-footed stance is something that the quarterbacks coach is teaching Mizzou quarterbacks.
I didn't get to watch much of that game. Was it a constant thing? Your post gave me a sick feeling. I hadn't even considered that it could be institutional stupidity.
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I think Franklin does that flat-footed thing more and/or more radically than other MU QBs. I remember last year (Franklin's first as a starter) my Dad mentioning to me how much that drove him nuts, and I agreed. If Daniel and Gabbert did it too, it sure didn't stick out nearly as much.
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Re: Run game vs. SEC defenses... with Missouri's trouble on the offensive line, that's going to be difficult under any circumstances. I'm a firm believer that even with a running QB, Missouri needs to add more triple option to its running game (Either from a two-back set, or from a areceiver in motion, or from a shovel pass on the backside, etc) to be successful running out of the zone read with any consistency.

Re: the flat-footed delivery...

That's something that's been around since Chase Daniel started at QB. I'm not sure what the reasoning is there or what the mechanic is, but it seems to be something they do when there is a pre-snap read dictating where to go (Seems to happen most vs. cover 3/on out patterns).
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I think that's the long and short of it.

In the SEC you have to be a passer or a runner - Franklin is some hybrid version where he is both but neither.

Newton and Tebow were winners because they were runners, elite, powerful runners. Franklin isn't that. He's not as strong, fast or agile as either of those 2.

Alternatively you can be a strong-armed passer like Bray, Wilson or Murray. Gabbert would have fit this mold. Berkstresser is close if he can develop his decisionmaking.

But Franklin strikes me as stuck in the middle and I don't think you can get away with that unless you're extremely accurate. Connor Shaw looks like that may be the type of QB he is. Chase Daniel could have been very similar to Shaw. You have to hope that Mauck is as well.

Oh, you can also have the most hellacious defense in the world like LSU or Bama and NFL talent everywhere but quarterback, that's one way to go about it.

I just don't see the hybrid passer thing working very well against this kind of competition.
Mauk is (reportedly) pretty accurate and has a pretty strong arm. His release is a little odd, but it's not bad.

He doesn't have the cannon Berkstresser does, but reports on their accuracy coming out of HS are quite different. Mauk is supposedly much more advanced (which makes sense, considering Berk had crap QB coaching until Thomas took over before his SR year).

Just don't know if Franklin is going to be healthy enough to be effective this year. The player we saw last year was certainly a powerful enough runner and an accurate enough passer to be successful, even in the SEC. But this year's version sees him running tentatively and checking down practically as soon as he gets the football.
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What I've read out of Mauk actually reminds me a bit of Colt McCoy.

Well, to be honest he reminds me a lot of Daniel, but that comparison just seems lazy.
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What I've read out of Mauk actually reminds me a bit of Colt McCoy.

Well, to be honest he reminds me a lot of Daniel, but that comparison just seems lazy.
He's faster/more athletic/less chubby than Chase.

So he's got that going for him, which is nice...
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