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Old 12-18-2012, 03:02 PM   Topic Starter
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Would you be okay with ONE MORE year of this bullshit for Manziel and/or picks?
This may have been covered in currently existing threads, but I've been thinking about this a lot. Would you be okay with the Chiefs trading down or surrendering their first-round pick, in exchange for a first rounder next year (along with a second + either this year or next)?

We could pick up one of the many "slightly above average" guys with our second rounder this year, and we'd likely be in position to draft Manziel outright next year, or combine our firsts to move up to get him? Alternatively, this could of course apply to other QBs who see their stock rocket (personally, I think Aaron Murray at Georgia would be a great pick, but the jury's still out; Louisville's Bridgewater and VT's L Thomas also come to mind).

So, what say you? Could you tolerate that scenario? Would you tolerate it if we had a new coach and GM, and the trade back this year was very transparent about our motives for next year's draft?

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Old 12-18-2012, 03:02 PM   #2
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:03 PM   #4
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Maziel will not be a successful NFL QB. Thats right, I'm saying it.
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stop delaying the future

if the QB we draft sucks, we can have another 1st next year
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:04 PM   #6
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Old 12-18-2012, 03:07 PM   #7
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Worst idea ever. JMO though.
That's fine. I agree with you, to an extent. The thread was mostly to entertain the idea, but I'd probably say "stop relying on the future and focus on the present". Which, ironically, is the opposite of what most posters on here thought of the Royals' trade for Shields.

The thought I had is, if NYJ have immense public pressure to draft a QB this year, they'll likely need to move up (even though that'll mark the second time in four years they'll have done that) and we could stand to reap significant benefits, and there is no single "absolute, can't miss" QB prospect in this year's class.
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That's fine. I agree with you, to an extent. The thread was mostly to entertain the idea, but I'd probably say "stop relying on the future and focus on the present". Which, ironically, is the opposite of what most posters on here thought of the Royals' trade for Shields.

The thought I had is, if NYJ have immense public pressure to draft a QB this year, they'll likely need to move up (even though that'll mark the second time in four years they'll have done that) and we could stand to reap significant benefits, and there is no single "absolute, can't miss" QB prospect in this year's class.
Tell me about all these players we could draft with those picks.

We'd be getting a Rams-type deal for this pick, right? For this valuable pick that (supposedly) no NFL team wants.

The NFL isn't ****ing Madden.
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Tim Tebow was great in college too, lets draft him.


Enough with this ****ing bullshit.
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"ONE MORE year..."

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How many years have you been saying "next year?"
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"ONE MORE year..."

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.

How many years have you been saying "next year?"
Almost as long as the Cubs fans have been saying that shit.
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Tim Tebow was great in college too, lets draft him.


Enough with this ****ing bullshit.
Okay, what about ANY QB in next year's class? We'd still end up with one in this year's class, be able to draft a nearly as capable QB in the second this year, and still gain multiple picks.
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Okay, what about ANY QB in next year's class? We'd still end up with one in this year's class, be able to draft a nearly as capable QB in the second this year, and still gain multiple picks.
If you trade picks and wait till the second round, you are taking a chance that a QB you like falls to you. Why the **** would yo do that?


Thats how you end up with the 5th best project QB in tihs class.
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If you trade picks and wait till the second round, you are taking a chance that a QB you like falls to you. Why the **** would yo do that?


Thats how you end up with the 5th best project QB in tihs class.
Okay, and if he sucks, you'll be in position anyway to draft a better QB next year. You then have a backup (unless you're interested in keeping Quinn or $10.5MM Cassel) and an extra first to spend on another piece. This team isn't a QB away from a Super Bowl, despite what many of us may "feel".
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Okay, and if he sucks, you'll be in position anyway to draft a better QB next year. You then have a backup (unless you're interested in keeping Quinn or $10.5MM Cassel) and an extra first to spend on another piece. This team isn't a QB away from a Super Bowl, despite what many of us may "feel".
What Qb will be better next year?


Stop listening to Kiper and watch for yourself.


You start building with a QB. Then you build around him.
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