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Old 06-21-2012, 02:30 PM  
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Broncos should be heavily favored...fan take
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There's roughly 10 weeks until the 2012 NFL season starts, and Denver Broncos fans' excitement is growing daily. With continued positive reports coming out of Broncos headquarters in regards to Peyton Manning's recovery, the upcoming season looks very promising. With an improving defense, and the switch to a high-octane offense behind a future Hall of Fame quarterback, the Broncos should dominate their AFC West division.

While I think it's possible that the first half of the schedule could yield a losing record for the Broncos (with tough opponents like the Pittsburgh Steelers, New England Patriots, Atlanta Falcons, Houston Texans, and the New Orleans Saints), the second half of the season is where the Broncos can really make a charge to the top of the standings. A large part of that is due to the fact that they will have four of their six divisional games in the second half of the season.

It's hard to identify for sure who will be their most formidable divisional opponent. With Phillip Rivers as their quarterback, the most likely choice would be the San Diego Chargers. With head coach Norv Turner and general manager A.J. Smith narrowly avoiding being fired at the end of last season, the Chargers will face extra pressure to get the job done in 2012. To me, their schedule looks a little more difficult than the one the Broncos face. While they are playing a very similar schedule to the Broncos, they have to contend with playing away against the Steelers and the New York Jets in the final month of the season. Even if the Chargers take an early divisional lead, they will have a tough time holding onto it in December.

It's a toss-up as to what kind of season the Kansas City Chiefs and the Oakland Raiders will have. Both teams will have new head coaches in 2012 and new strategies. The Raiders made a bold move in acquiring quarterback Carson Palmer in 2011 and after a full off-season in the Raiders organization should be ready to be the best quarterback the team has seen since Rich Gannon. If (and this is a big "if") Palmer stays healthy, I look to see the Raiders show significant improvement this season. However, challenging for a divisional title would seem to be far from a reasonable goal.

Much like the Radiers, the Chiefs' fortunes hinge largely upon whether quarterback Matt Cassel can finally live up to that huge contract he signed three years ago. The Chiefs have drafted a large amount of high-quality talent over the past several years, but have yet to have that talent live up to its potential. A winning record would be a big improvement for this team.

Broncos fans will need some patience in September and October, but I think that the Broncos will prevail in the AFC West in the end.

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Old 06-21-2012, 04:45 PM   #31
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San Diego could easily have won this division even with a healthy Peyton in Denver if they fired Norv.

Instead they're being talked about as the second banana to both Denver AND Kansas City.

I'm giving Romeo a chance this year, but if I even smell the faintest WHIFF of Norvesque failure on him, I'll demand he get fired.
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Old 06-21-2012, 04:45 PM   #32
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Clay's statement is misleading because this franchise has already turned a corner. We came out of nowhere to win the division two years ago.. last year we were decimated by injuries and still found a way to be in the division race up until the final week of the season.

NFL people who are in the know recognize that Pioli has gone about his business and assembled one best rosters in the league. Quarterback or not, the roster is legitimate. We're going to be highly competitive for a while whether the self-loathing fans like it or not.
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Old 06-21-2012, 04:46 PM   #33
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I get it that but to say if it's not Manning who wins to automatically go to Rivers as the winner is dismissing the fact that Rivers has proven he can fold up and lose to lousy QBs.

If this division is won solely based on the QB play of a team then it will be because of Manning. Rivers will not do this because he has proven he can't. All his prior division wins were because the other teams were so abysmal, not because of his greatness.
in the West we have:
Manning
Rivers
PalmerCassel

Manning has proved greatness and Rivers is the other QB in this division thats capable of greatness.

i'm just saying QB's are the most important players on offense that's needed for greatness from the team, Cassel and Palmer are excluded from the word "greatness".
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Old 06-21-2012, 04:50 PM   #34
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if Manning's healthy, the Broncos own the division.
if not, then its probably gonna be the Chargers taking the West.
Yep. The Chiefs will slide into 3rd place when all is done. I believe fans just expect Poe to be an all pro & Charles/Berry/Moeaki to just pick up where they all left off. The Chiefs just aren't that talented they can bounce back like that.

Peyton Manning owns this division. Now that he is part of it, he will put forth even greater effort to pummel the AFCW. Any fool believes he doesn't is not playing with a full deck.

Only thing KC has on Peyton is Romeo and without the right personnel, he isn't gonna be able to miff Mainning per usual. Makes it even harder when RC has to play Manning twice during the same season, too.

But, I didn't read the article - I don't follow women for sports/football news. That'd be lame.
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Old 06-21-2012, 04:52 PM   #35
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Clay's statement is misleading because this franchise has already turned a corner. We came out of nowhere to win the division two years ago.. last year we were decimated by injuries and still found a way to be in the division race up until the final week of the season.

NFL people who are in the know recognize that Pioli has gone about his business and assembled one best rosters in the league. Quarterback or not, the roster is legitimate. We're going to be highly competitive for a while whether the self-loathing fans like it or not.
Next year is the year, amirite?
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But, I didn't read the article - I don't follow women for sports/football news. That'd be lame.
yeah, i didn't read the article either, i said the day Manning announced he was going to Denver, the division is his unless he's not healthy.

he'll make their WR's look like all pros.
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last year we were decimated by injuries and still found a way to be in the division race up until the final week of the season.
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Old 06-21-2012, 04:57 PM   #38
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Not making any bold predictions about my team but I am just not seeing one old washed up fragile QB taking the AFC West by storm... THEY had this dude once named Elway and he even had a losing record as a starter vs my beloved Raiders..

Don't drink the Koolaid, Denver is not built to protect Manning as the Colts were and he is one good pop from standing over there holding a clipboard for the next 2 years.
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He also had 20 INTs. And was a choking bitch. He's the reason they only won 8.
Interesting.

The QB who was near the top of almost every statistical category was a liability, but not San Diego's 22nd ranked defense or 16th ranked running game.
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We have had one winning record in the last five years.

And that was against a shit schedule.

Understand these things, and understand why we are given no respect that we have not earned.
I agree totally. With Matt at the helm why should we be feared to do anything but pull out a few wins. I think we can win the division if our ground game returns and we play tough defense but if this offense at any point has to fall on Matt then it's over.
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Yep. The Chiefs will slide into 3rd place when all is done. I believe fans just expect Poe to be an all pro & Charles/Berry/Moeaki to just pick up where they all left off. The Chiefs just aren't that talented they can bounce back like that.
Just like you expect Manning to pick where he left off? With a new team?

And I still think people are underestimating how much Manning's players around him helped him out. Especially the offensive line being able to adjust at the line of scrimmage correctly every time Peyton changes the blocking scheme 5 seconds before the play clock expires. He will get hit significantly more based on that fact alone, then you add the fact that Indy's offensive line was just better in general.
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Cassel or Orton started in 4 of those 5 wins.

Even if they didn't, those shitty QBs made our defense look better than it actually is.
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