Cardinals ***OFFICIAL*** 2013 STL Cardinals Thread - Page 193

**BigRedChief** · 08:16 PM

From Bernie's column:

People have asked me why we’re not more emotional,” Matheny said in his office after Sunday’s game. “They say that we look subdued, always intense. That our actions are methodical, robotic at times. That’s what got us here. This isn’t the time to change it.”

It’s hard to argue with the manager’s assessment. The Cardinals finished with 97 victories, most by a Cards team since 2005, and tied with Boston for No. 1 in the majors this year.

Their 54-27 showing at Busch Stadium matches the 1985 team for the best single-season home winning percentage (.667) by the Cardinals since 1944.

A postseason theme has emerged, and it echoes the mantra that surfaced before the start of 2013: remember the fall of 2012. Remember falling to San Francisco in the NLCS.

The Cardinals’ veterans still haven’t forgotten. They still aren’t over it. It’s why Matheny resists GM John Mozeliak’s urgings to smile and put on a happier face.

Here's the most impressive aspect of the Cardinals' division championship: they prevailed over two other outstanding teams, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

The 97-win Cardinals were better this year (regular season) than they were in 2011, when they won 90 games, and 2012, when they won 88.
Here are a few numbers that help put the Cardinals' Central title and No. 1 NL seed in perspective:

* Since MLB switched to a three-division format in each league in 1994, this was only the sixth time that a division had three 90-plus win teams. St. Louis won 97, Pittsburgh 94, and Cincinnati 90.
* Since the format change, this was only the second time that an NL division had three 90-win teams. In 2002 the NL West had Arizona (98 wins), San Francisco (95) and Los Angeles (92).
* The 2013 Cardinals faced more esteemed and difficult competition at the top of the division than any of the division-winning teams managed by Tony La Russa.

The Pirates were hardly pushovers; the Cardinals had to work like mad and kick in with a strong finish to put the division away, and didn't clinch until Game No. 160.

The Cardinals went 9-10 against Pittsburgh this season and were 11-8 vs. Cincinnati.

The Cardinals won only three of 10 games at PNC Park in Pittsburgh and split the 10 games at Cincinnati. The Cardinals were 6-3 against both teams at Busch Stadium.

The Cardinals (1st), Pirates (3rd) and Reds (5th) ranked among the top five in wins in the NL. The three teams were among the top 11 in wins in MLB. All three teams finished in the top five in the majors for best overall ERA, and each were in the top five MLB for best starting-pitching ERA.

The original purpose to this piece was to point out that the Cardinals managed to finish with the league's best record while competing in a division that had three 90-win teams for only the second time in the last 19 years of National League baseball.

The Cardinals really earned this.
Thanks for reading ...
— Bernie

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-14-2013, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Whats the word on Holliday?

Matt Holliday (hamstring) will be sidelined until after the All-Star break.
Advice: Holliday left Thursday's game with a hamstring injury and has been ruled out for the remainder of the Cubs series. With the All-Star break next week, the Cardinals will get him a total of seven days rest without going on the disabled list.

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O.city · 07-14-2013, 08:32 PM

So no disabled list. Good to hear, seemed to be heating up.

Pepe Silvia · 07-14-2013, 08:33 PM

Hamas your av is how I picture you watching games.

Pepe Silvia · 07-14-2013, 08:34 PM

We've had 13 ****ing hits, we should have 9 runs right now.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-14-2013, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by PackerinMo

Hamas your av is how I picture you watching games.

I once separated the top of a coffee table from the base while flipping it over watching a Chiefs-Chargers game. Remember the game where Pollard blocked the punt on SNF, but Triplette said that due to the touch SD advanced the ball and got a first down, then LT ripped off an 80 yarder? That one.

And we BABIP the Cubs. Nice.

Pepe Silvia · 07-14-2013, 08:36 PM

Carp is Chuck Norris long lost brother.

O.city · 07-14-2013, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I once separated the top of a coffee table from the base while flipping it over watching a Chiefs-Chargers game. Remember the game where Pollard blocked the punt on SNF, but Triplette said that due to the touch SD advanced the ball and got a first down, then LT ripped off an 80 yarder? That one.

And we BABIP the Cubs. Nice.

Ouch, I remember that.

My dogs don't stay downstairs when I'm watching sports. Last year, our little shitzu sat on the remote and I missed the last 10 seconds of the KU MU game in Columbia and if I could have gotten ahold of her I'da kilt her.

Luckily I didn't have to see the Hawks lose.

O.city · 07-14-2013, 08:40 PM

I think I might become a Cubs fan, get famous, get asked to sing "take me out to the ballgame" at Wrigley, just so I can say Cardinals whilst giving the fans the finger.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-14-2013, 08:42 PM

I buried a Glade standalone pyramid-shaped scent box into our drywall after MU blew the game in Lawrence in 2012.

That was the first time I'd broken something in over five years. When the Chiefs lost to the Browns in the Derek Anderson game I smashed a plate on the floor. Threw another one into the cabinet when they ****ed up that game in Dallas in 2005.

Those were angry days. Now, just depressing.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-14-2013, 08:42 PM

Scroate but not Siegrist. Makes sense.

Pepe Silvia · 07-14-2013, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

I buried a Glade standalone pyramid-shaped scent box into our drywall after MU blew the game in Lawrence in 2012.

That game pissed me off, Mizzou needed to keep their foot on their necks, I knew if they let them make it close the refs would make sure KU won.

O.city · 07-14-2013, 08:44 PM

The Northern Iowa debacle left my college appt in shambles.

Then there was the Belmont, VCU, (insert mid major) games as well.

O.city · 07-14-2013, 08:49 PM

Hamas, we talked about it the other night, but I'm not sure Rosenthals stuff isn't up there as well.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-14-2013, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city

Hamas, we talked about it the other night, but I'm not sure Rosenthals stuff isn't up there as well.

It's great, but Martinez's fastball has a late tail to it. Rosenthal has better command of the zone, though.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 07-14-2013, 08:53 PM

Changeup low and away gets Soriano here.

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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $8019572	I buried a Glade standalone pyramid-shaped scent box into our drywall after MU blew the game in Lawrence in 2012. That was the first time I'd broken something in over five years. When the Chiefs lost to the Browns in the Derek Anderson game I smashed a plate on the floor. Threw another one into the cabinet when they ****ed up that game in Dallas in 2005. Those were angry days. Now, just depressing. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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