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Old 07-30-2013, 08:36 AM  
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Old 07-28-2014, 11:46 AM   #2926
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I don't see how anyone would take Ware over Houston right now. One is getting into his prime and has been getting better every year while the other is the complete opposite...past his prime, hurting and declining in production.
It's Hefmo. ****ing buffoons.
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Old 07-28-2014, 11:51 AM   #2927
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Old 07-28-2014, 11:54 AM   #2928
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I will not stop till this thread is dead and buried once again. This ****er is like the offspring of Jason and Chucky. We all know Bronco fans are the seeds of buttsex, but this little turd is a special kind...
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Old 07-28-2014, 11:57 AM   #2929
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Houston came into his own last year and in the same amount of games (13) as Ware last year he had twice the amount of sacks, 1 more QB hit and 11 more pressures.

I'm taking Houston right now until I see Ware prove he's what he used to be.
Houston played his games healthy, and sat out with his elbow injury. Ware had his elbow injury all season long, and played through it. If he's injured again, it will hamper his play... which is why I referenced injuries in my first post on the subject.
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Old 07-28-2014, 11:58 AM   #2930
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I will not stop till this thread is dead and buried once again. This ****er is like the offspring of Jason and Chucky. We all know Bronco fans are the seeds of buttsex, but this little turd is a special kind...
Do you ever add anything meaningful to the discussion?
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Old 07-28-2014, 11:59 AM   #2931
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Do you ever add anything meaningful to the discussion?
Nothing meaningful is in this thread PERIOD for ****'s sake it's a circle jerk between you and your lil buddy.
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Old 07-28-2014, 12:02 PM   #2932
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Hef is the king of the random, useless stat and, honestly, defends his Bronco butt buddies just as adamantly as KnowMo, but he's FAR more tolerable than that little shit stain.

I mean, "Richard Sherman and Aqib Talib are a wash"? That is a special kind of stupid right there.
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Old 07-28-2014, 12:05 PM   #2933
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Hef is the king of the random, useless stat and, honestly, defends his Bronco butt buddies just as adamantly as KnowMo, but he's FAR more tolerable than that little shit stain.

I mean, "Richard Sherman and Aqib Talib are a wash"? That is a special kind of stupid right there.
I don't see how Houston getting sacks in bunches rather than consistently is random or useless, since it pertains directly to the discussion and is a concern frequently brought up about passrushers.

I think you guys just don't like what it suggests.
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Old 07-28-2014, 12:07 PM   #2934
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I don't see how Houston getting sacks in bunches rather than consistently is random or useless, since it pertains directly to the discussion and is a concern frequently brought up about passrushers.

I think you guys just don't like what it suggests.
It means you are a dumb homer that won't acknowledge the difference between an ascending and descending player. You just don't like what that suggests.
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Old 07-28-2014, 12:09 PM   #2935
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I don't see how Houston getting sacks in bunches rather than consistently is random or useless, since it pertains directly to the discussion and is a concern frequently brought up about passrushers.

I think you guys just don't like what it suggests.
Because guys like Reggie White, Kevin Greene, and DT never did the exact same thing...
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Old 07-28-2014, 12:11 PM   #2936
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Pretty funny that Hef doesn't account for teams like the Broncos and Bills purposely getting the ball very quickly bc of this pass rush.
Last year teams knew we had a good pass rush and that was their plan.
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Pretty funny that Hef doesn't account for teams like the Broncos and Bills purposely getting the ball very quickly bc of this pass rush.
Last year teams knew we had a good pass rush and that was their plan.
Dude doesn't even watch the games
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Old 07-28-2014, 12:14 PM   #2938
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7 of Houston's sacks came in two games against rookie RT's, in the other 9 games played before being injured he had 3 sacks. Seems to me Houston feasts on scrubs and disappears against better competition.
1/3 of Ware's sacks last year came from an injured rookie RT in KC.
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Another 1/3 of Ware's sacks last year came against a weak STL RT who I don't even know of.

So 4 of Ware's 6 sacks were against poor RT's last year. This is too easy.
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I don't see how Houston getting sacks in bunches rather than consistently is random or useless, since it pertains directly to the discussion and is a concern frequently brought up about passrushers.



I think you guys just don't like what it suggests.

It's not useless but also not the end-all-be-all. Not that I care to even argue about it, but sacks are only a small part of the impact a rush backer has on the game. It doesn't carry as much weight to only look at the sacks when there are hurries and pressures to account for that have just as large an impact as recording an actual sack.

The latest Super Bowl highlighted this very well. Peyton only got sacked once the entire game, I believe, but the pressure and QB hits were what really caused huge problems for your offense. Also, I don't even think Tamba finished the season in the top 10 as far as sacks are concerned, but PFF had him something like #1 or 2 in total sacks, QB hits and pressures.

Once again, I don't give two shits about this specific argument you guys are having so there's no need for you to run off and calculate all total sacks, hits and pressures like I'm sure you're likely already starting to do before finishing this post, but you can use stats to paint whatever kind of picture you'd like.
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