Chiefs Utter sadness in Kansas City - Page 3

**KcMizzou** · 12-01-2012, 09:29 PM

By Bill Williamson | ESPN.com

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This has been on my mind all day.

Still, after traveling 1,000 miles, I have yet to reach any comprehension. I have nothing profound to say about the horrible tragedy this morning in Kansas City that has galvanized the NFL world, other to say I have the same feeling you probably have -- utter sadness.

I awoke this morning to a text saying that a Kansas City Chiefs player murdered his girlfriend and then shot himself at the team’s facility. The text said the player involved was linebacker Jovan Belcher.

Like so many at ESPN, I immediately worked the phones in search of more details of this mind-numbing event. As I traveled to Denver, I thought about what I was going to write in this piece.

What could I say about this event that no one else is feeling or saying?

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Chiefs fansJohn Rieger/US PresswireChiefs fans place a sign outside the team's practice facility, site of Jovan Belcher's suicide.
Thus, I want to join the masses and express my thoughts and grief for the family of Belcher’s victim, Kasandra M. Perkins, who died at 22, and the couple's infant daughter. Lives were ended; others were ruined. So terrible.

I also feel for bad for Scott Pioli and Romeo Crennel. The Chiefs' general manager and the head coach were talking to Belcher, according to police, just before the player walked away and shot himself.

What a terrible and emotional event to witness. This day will be with these men for the rest of their lives; they will never be able to shake it. Pioli and Crennel went to work Saturday morning to put the finishing touches on another game week in a miserable season. Then they were thrust into the middle of a crisis involving a young man they had grown to care for.

I know Pioli and Crennel are not popular figures in Kansas City these days because of the team’s 1-10 season. There is a strong chance Chiefs ownership makes wholesale changes in a month.

What happens professionally will take its course.

I expect Kansas City fans to loudly support their hurting team Sunday when the Chiefs host Carolina at Arrowhead Stadium. It should go without saying that I hope there are no airplane flyovers imploring for people to be fired, no fan “blackouts” at the game. The voice of the understandably angry Chiefs fan has been heard and it has been noted.

Sunday will be about beginning the healing process and honoring those left behind from this senseless crime. Be a Chiefs fan Sunday. At the core, that’s what you are.

I know some people don’t understand why or how the game can be played. But the Chiefs’ coaches and team captains reportedly played a major role in the decision to go ahead with it. If the Chiefs want to play, I think we can all support that choice.

I’ve been asked a lot Saturday about what Belcher was like. I didn’t know him. I never met him or interviewed him. I knew he was an overachieving player who ended up starting 44 career games after going undrafted.

I know his agent, Joe Linta, very well. He has a well-deserved reputation for representing solid-citizen types. He had always spoken highly of Belcher to me. Linta expressed disbelief Saturday.

Disbelief. That’s all you can feel when something so unspeakable happens.

http://espn.go.com/blog/afcwest/post...in-kansas-city

TEX · 12-01-2012, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Oh no! Stevie thinks I'm an asshole!

Problem is you like being one.

**RealSNR** · 12-01-2012, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TEX

Problem is you like being one.

Maybe so. But that doesn't change the fact that I'm right about Bill Williamson saying the wrong thing in this article.

It's remarkable that he starts out the article basically saying, "I have no idea what to say. What can somebody really say in a terrible tragedy like this?"

And then after that he talks in a tone down to Chiefs fans who absolutely DON'T need that bullshit from national sports writers right now.

**KcMizzou** · 12-01-2012, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Gets AIDS, dude.

Oh no! I told somebody on the internet to get AIDS! That must mean I really hope they get AIDS!

Learn to ignore over-the-top statements on the internet. Lesson of the day.

Dude. You've become a terrible person. You've gone way off the rails.

Seriously. You've become obnoxious just to be obnoxious. There's no point to it. Stop it.

Or don't, and continue on your path to becoming silly ass caricature of the poster you used to be.

NJChiefsFan · 12-01-2012, 10:30 PM

Banners flying wouldn't help us at all. It would make a martyr out of Pioli.

I do agree that Williamson seems to not trust our ability to recognize this shouldn't be done. We aren't 4. This movement has been well organized and run by classy guys. Williamson has read this site. No way he hasn't. He could have come here and checked in without talking to us in the national media and implying to his readers we might just be this stupid.

**RealSNR** · 12-01-2012, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KcMizzou

Dude. You've become a terrible person. You've gone way off the rails.

Seriously. You've become obnoxious just to be obnoxious. There's no point to it. Stop it.

Or don't, and continue on your path to becoming silly ass caricature of the poster you used to be.

Sorry you feel that way. Really, I am. I regard you as a good poster around here.

My opinion still hasn't changed, though. **** Bill Williamson.

tk13 · 12-01-2012, 10:36 PM

Funny thing is I agree with what SNR's saying... I think he was a being a bit too preachy acting like we're a bunch of idiots who have no concept of appropriate behavior.

That said, the irony is SNR calls him out in a post that basically has no tact.

**KcMizzou** · 12-01-2012, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Sorry you feel that way. Really, I am. I regard you as a good poster around here.

My opinion still hasn't changed, though. **** Bill Williamson.

Ah, you're killin' me with kindness here... but my point is, you're intentionally posting outlandish shit that just makes you look foolish.

In my opinion.

**RealSNR** · 12-01-2012, 10:38 PM

Fine.

Sorry I fake-wished AIDS on stevieray, everybody.

Hootie · 12-01-2012, 10:43 PM

You know, I just don't get it...

we can cheer and laugh about a girl getting defeeted at Six Flags...but as soon as something real hits close to home someone will crack a joke and all of the sudden bam! that person is TERRIBLE and TASTELESS etc. etc. etc.

What SNR said about Belcher, a murderer, was tongue in cheek...i knew he was joking, you knew he was joking, even Denise KNEW he was joking...

yet he crossed a line? But no one crosses a line when a poor 16 year old girl ruins her life at a Six Flags when she gets her feet severed?

What?

I do love this site!!! =)

**RealSNR** · 12-01-2012, 10:46 PM

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You know, I just don't get it...

we can cheer and laugh about a girl getting defeeted at Six Flags...but as soon as something real hits close to home someone will crack a joke and all of the sudden bam! that person is TERRIBLE and TASTELESS etc. etc. etc.

What SNR said about Belcher, a murderer, was tongue in cheek...i knew he was joking, you knew he was joking, even Denise KNEW he was joking...

yet he crossed a line? But no one crosses a line when a poor 16 year old girl ruins her life at a Six Flags when she gets her feet severed?

What?

I do love this site!!! =)

Exactly. I'm not taking back the comment about Belcher killing Williamson.

If people aren't able to take it with a grain of salt, that's their problem.

I do, however, really apologize about what I said to stevie.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-01-2012, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Capt Tasty Cheeks

You know, I just don't get it...

we can cheer and laugh about a girl getting defeeted at Six Flags...but as soon as something real hits close to home someone will crack a joke and all of the sudden bam! that person is TERRIBLE and TASTELESS etc. etc. etc.

What SNR said about Belcher, a murderer, was tongue in cheek...i knew he was joking, you knew he was joking, even Denise KNEW he was joking...

yet he crossed a line? But no one crosses a line when a poor 16 year old girl ruins her life at a Six Flags when she gets her feet severed?

What?

I do love this site!!! =)

Soapboxes.

Without them, many people don't have a ****ing thing to say.

**KcMizzou** · 12-01-2012, 10:48 PM

Meh, I'm over it. It's the intarwebs.

The Stevie thing is up to Stevie.

Reerun_KC · 12-01-2012, 10:49 PM

I've talked to several people in kc today. Not one of them is sad. What a bunch of ****ing bullshit. Just because some murderer pops himself. We are supposed to feel sadness? I have compassion for the girl. But not one **** was give for belcher. He.sucked.on and off the field.

**KcMizzou** · 12-01-2012, 10:49 PM

Guys can fight it out and get over it. Grudges are for girls.

Hootie · 12-01-2012, 10:50 PM

soapboxes are the new strawman!

I love it! I've heard soapboxes more today than I have ever heard that term in my life.

12-01-2012, 10:30 PM	#34
NJChiefsFan I've Made a Huge Mistake Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: NJ Casino cash: $5770423	Banners flying wouldn't help us at all. It would make a martyr out of Pioli. I do agree that Williamson seems to not trust our ability to recognize this shouldn't be done. We aren't 4. This movement has been well organized and run by classy guys. Williamson has read this site. No way he hasn't. He could have come here and checked in without talking to us in the national media and implying to his readers we might just be this stupid.
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12-01-2012, 10:36 PM	#36
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $2032500	Funny thing is I agree with what SNR's saying... I think he was a being a bit too preachy acting like we're a bunch of idiots who have no concept of appropriate behavior. That said, the irony is SNR calls him out in a post that basically has no tact.
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12-01-2012, 10:38 PM	#38
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12-01-2012, 10:43 PM	#39
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	You know, I just don't get it... we can cheer and laugh about a girl getting defeeted at Six Flags...but as soon as something real hits close to home someone will crack a joke and all of the sudden bam! that person is TERRIBLE and TASTELESS etc. etc. etc. What SNR said about Belcher, a murderer, was tongue in cheek...i knew he was joking, you knew he was joking, even Denise KNEW he was joking... yet he crossed a line? But no one crosses a line when a poor 16 year old girl ruins her life at a Six Flags when she gets her feet severed? What? I do love this site!!! =)
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12-01-2012, 10:48 PM	#42
KcMizzou Supporter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Parkville MO Casino cash: $10005170	Meh, I'm over it. It's the intarwebs. The Stevie thing is up to Stevie.
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12-01-2012, 10:49 PM	#43
Reerun_KC Rock Chalk Jayhawks! KU!!! Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $8301160	I've talked to several people in kc today. Not one of them is sad. What a bunch of **ing bullshit. Just because some murderer pops himself. We are supposed to feel sadness? I have compassion for the girl. But not one ** was give for belcher. He.sucked.on and off the field.
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12-01-2012, 10:50 PM	#45
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	soapboxes are the new strawman! I love it! I've heard soapboxes more today than I have ever heard that term in my life.
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