****The official NEW new conference realignment thread.****

[Saul Good]

the second thread has been pronounced dead.

[DeezNutz]

Originally Posted by Buck

Might sound ridiculous, but could be a precursor to something big. Keep hearing rumors about SDSU pulling out of the Big East and they've been talking to the Big 12.

Laugh if you want, but SD is a large TV market, it opens up recruiting to Socal a little more for Big 12 teams, and it would provide an easy 10 pm Eastern time slot for football games in the conference to challenge the PAC12 for Football TV ratings on Saturdays.

Does anyone in SD give a shit about SDSU? Serious question. They don't seem to care about the Chargers or Padres.

[Mr. Laz]

Hopefully Florida State and Clemson to make the Big 12 the Big 12 again.

even if the Big 12 makes a little less money per school at first, it will be worth it in the long run to have the schools committed. If we wait until the big explosion then we might end up without having much choice.

[DeezNutz]

Those would be two excellent additions. Much stronger, overall, than WVU and TCU, the latter of which I view as a true dog.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Laz

Hopefully Florida State and Clemson to make the Big 12 the Big 12 again.

even if the Big 12 makes a little less money per school at first, it will be worth it in the long run to have the schools committed. If we wait until the big explosion then we might end up without having much choice.

The Big 12 needs to get themselves to 12 sooner rather than later.

This is where it's going. This is where it's always been going and the ACC isn't just going to take a cornholing here. They're going to try to get active as well.

If for no other reason than to avoid the perception of being the 'tiny' conference, the Big 12 will need to get back to 12 in a hurry. 10 is a nice quaint concept...that's going to be obsolete in the very near future.

The Big 12 needs to get some invites out there before they run out of dance partners.

[Al Bundy]

Originally Posted by alnorth

Huge, massive, earth-shattering realignment news today, breaking right now. The ripples from this move will be felt for years.

Are you ready? Maybe you need to sit down first. OK, here we go:

Tulane is joining the Big East.

Instant reaction from another message board:

They're bringing our conference down... first we have to put up with South Florida's crap, now it is Tulane.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Buck

Might sound ridiculous, but could be a precursor to something big. Keep hearing rumors about SDSU pulling out of the Big East and they've been talking to the Big 12.

Laugh if you want, but SD is a large TV market, it opens up recruiting to Socal a little more for Big 12 teams, and it would provide an easy 10 pm Eastern time slot for football games in the conference to challenge the PAC12 for Football TV ratings on Saturdays.

Would it be wise to spread the conference out so far? I was all for the Big 12 adding BYU, but all of the news now seem to indicate that the conference is now looking east.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

no way in hell does the Big 12 go west. Especially for a shit school like SDSU. Sorry Buck.

No one, and I mean NO ONE in the Big 12 territory as it exists today will stay up until midnight to watch a Big 12 school play SDSU. And that would be 1AM for WVU.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

no way in hell does the Big 12 go west. Especially for a shit school like SDSU. Sorry Buck.

No one, and I mean NO ONE in the Big 12 territory as it exists today will stay up until midnight to watch a Big 12 school play SDSU. And that would be 1AM for WVU.

Do you think BYU is still a legitimate possibility? I've read mixed reports on that pairing thus far.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

The Big 12 needs to get themselves to 12 sooner rather than later.

This is where it's going. This is where it's always been going and the ACC isn't just going to take a cornholing here. They're going to try to get active as well.

If for no other reason than to avoid the perception of being the 'tiny' conference, the Big 12 will need to get back to 12 in a hurry. 10 is a nice quaint concept...that's going to be obsolete in the very near future.

The Big 12 needs to get some invites out there before they run out of dance partners.

yep

first come, first serve

when the big bang comes, the perceived weakest conference is going to go bye-bye.

The Big 12 needs to position themselves so that considered one of the power conferences BEFORE everything breaks apart.

[mikeyis4dcats.]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Do you think BYU is still a legitimate possibility? I've read mixed reports on that pairing thus far.

From what I've read, the BYU motion died when BYU told the conference they were unwilling to open their books for review.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by Laz

yep

first come, first serve

when the big bang comes, the perceived weakest conference is going to go bye-bye.

The Big 12 needs to position themselves so that considered one of the power conferences BEFORE everything breaks apart.

Florida State and BYU (If Clemson is out of the picture) would add an incredible amount of respect to the conference.

[Chiefspants]

Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats.

From what I've read, the BYU motion died when BYU told the conference they were unwilling to open their books for review.

Well, I can not say that's too surprising, they've been rather bull-headed and Texas like with conferences in the past.

[HolyHandgernade]

Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Does anyone in SD give a shit about SDSU? Serious question. They don't seem to care about the Chargers or Padres.

Well, they do seem to have a strong local following that swells quickly if either the basketball or football team is doing particularly well. Its certainly not nationwide and I bet barely gets out of its own county, but that's a 4 million population county we're talking about!

Lots of people are transplants in this part of California. I imagine if you had B12 teams coming to play, attendance and following are going to increase substantially. Heck, if my son could earn a scholarship there, I would send him in a heartbeat (academic/music, he's not an athlete), very well credited college with discriminating standards. SDU is probably viewed as a little more elite with their marine biology program, but SDSU is no slouch.

That said, I have a hard time imagining a southern California member. The reason they are not in the PAC is because USC and UCLA hunt the San Diego County athletes, and its a good market. Junior Seau probably the most famous and Kansas fans will remember Scot Pollard. Those schools don't want more local competition. Its not hard to imagine their pool of athletes would go up with B12 membership.

The distance, however, is really difficult to get over and really makes one wonder how they would fit in any divisional or pod system if it gets that big. I would love to see it for personal reasons, of course.

[alnorth]

Originally Posted by Chiefspants

Do you think BYU is still a legitimate possibility? I've read mixed reports on that pairing thus far.

no. We've had some fairly reliable reports from both sides that the Big 12 has concluded that BYU is too much of a pain in the ass. They were originally in the plans to get back to 10.

[alnorth]

Take this for what its worth. Jon Wilner is the beat writer for the San Jose Mercury News (how the hell does a California writer have ACC sources?) so its above "random blogger", but might be a notch below mainstream news.

@wilnerhotline posted:
Numerous realignment sources believe Duke, UNC ultimately going B1G