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Old 05-01-2014, 01:11 PM  
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Why Benghazi should matter to every American

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Why Benghazi should matter to every American

The mainstream media declared the Benghazi story insignificant long ago. To the extent it is covered, the focus is usually on the horrific and unnecessary deaths of four Americans. The Obama administration dismisses it as a lot of fuss about a few silly talking points.

But everybody is missing the big-picture story of the Benghazi affair and its cover-up. Itís about the White House using the intelligence community for its own political purposes, and lying to the American public in order to win an election. Itís about abuse of power, and that is a big deal.

Thatís why the administration cannot be allowed to investigate itself. Thatís why it is time for Congress to appoint a special committee to get to the bottom of the story.

Benghazi is no longer just a political issue. Itís not just a partisan witch hunt. It goes to the heart of what our system of government is all about.

If it turns out that Benghazi and the cover-up were just a series of junior level mistakes, that is the end of it. But if it turns out the administration was using the military and intelligence communities for political purposes prior to the attack, during the attack and in a subsequent cover-up, it must be held accountable. Because once the precedent is set, future administrations will feel no reluctance to do the same.

America has the most powerful military and intelligence services in the world, probably in the history of the world. They have an infrastructure that endures separately and beyond any administration or politician.

At the same time, the military-intelligence complex takes its orders from the American people, through their elected/appointed representatives in the White House and Cabinet.

Itís a sacred trust at the heart of our Constitution, as set out in civilian control of the military. But it comes at a price Ė that our civilian leaders do not abuse that power and bend the military and intelligence communities to do their political dirty work.

The president doesnít order the military to seize political opponents. He doesnít order his intelligence community to lie about national security for political purposes. He uses the military or intelligence communities to protect the United States and our citizens, not to help him win elections.

Thatís the heart of the Benghazi scandal and cover-up. The White House twisted intelligence to suit its political needs.

I was part of the Nixon administration during Watergate. I was a junior staffer on the National Security Council and helped keep the classified files. At the heart of the Watergate investigation was the presidentís abuse of power Ė secretly using the intelligence community for political purposes and then using the intelligence community for cover when it became public.

It was a difficult time for the nation, and certainly for anyone in the White House. But it was necessary, especially in hindsight. It wasnít just about a president lying to the American people. It was a check on the seemingly unlimited power of the president to use the military and civilian career government bureaucracy for his own political goals.

It is now incumbent on the congressional leadership to act. There have been countless hearings into Benghazi by numerous congressional committees, but none have had subpoena power to demand the paper trail, or to force government workers to testify about what they knew and when they knew it.

The questions at the heart of the Benghazi scandal and cover-up are specifically:

1. Did the White House fail to provide adequate security at the Benghazi consulate because it didnít want to acknowledge that a terrorist threat remained, even though Bin Laden was dead?

2. Did the White House order the intelligence community to change its analysis so the president could claim his policy was a success, rather than a failure, just a few weeks before an election?

3. And, finally, what was the relationship between an overzealous White House staff and the president himself? What did the president know, and when did he know it?

This is no longer just a political issue. Itís not just a partisan witch hunt. It goes to the heart of what our system of government is all about. Thatís why itís time for Congress to act and create a bipartisan special committee to get to the bottom of this, once and for all.

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Old 07-31-2014, 10:46 AM   #541
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So I guess you guys are finally flaccid with Benghazi after almost two years. Let us all pour one out for the longest rage boner in Conservatardia history.

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Old 07-31-2014, 11:17 AM   #542
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So I guess you guys are finally flaccid with Benghazi after almost two years. Let us all pour one out for the longest rage boner in Conservatardia history.

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I think you're calling this way too early.
Little things like facts or a committee report dismissing any scandal isn't going to matter much to these folks. If Hillary runs, this thing will be shocked back to life like Frankenstein.
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Old 07-31-2014, 11:28 AM   #543
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Oh for sure they'll bring it up. But they won't want to discuss facts or eventual findings. It will just be a bullet point on a list. That was the whole goal - to make sure the name "Benghazi" stayed in the fickle swing voter consciousness long enough that they might go "well I don't remember anything about that but it seemed bad and like a big deal at the time... hmmm..." Well that and yeah it will still rile up the base. They probably succeeded on both.

It also helps that conservative media will completely bury this story that the umpteenth committee, one with 7 republicans and 5 democrats, found nothing.

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Old 07-31-2014, 11:31 AM   #544
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So I guess you guys are finally flaccid with Benghazi after almost two years. Let us all pour one out for the longest rage boner in Conservatardia history.

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Old 07-31-2014, 12:31 PM   #545
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Old 08-01-2014, 07:22 AM   #546
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Benghazi and the other scandals are false hope. People need to stop buying into that crap. Obama is not getting impeached and no one important is going to be held accountable. The GOP is wasting their time and doing nothing in Washington. They are dinosaurs compared to the left. If they don't change their tactics and relate to the younger voters they will continue to lose elections. It's really to bad they are so out of touch. I wish they would stop focusing on this administration and start focusing on the next election.
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Man it's amazing the enthusiasm drop on this form for Benghazi in just two months. What about those 4 dead Americans we were never going to forget? Could that have just been political bluster? No way.

Good thing there's always something new to get riled up about just about around the corner.
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Old 11-21-2014, 07:03 PM   #548
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Four people died, people high up in this administration lied. Don't help your fellow Americans with help just a phone call away.



Who ordered the lie?

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If they would've done the right thing and had the seals come in and rescue them they could have looked forceful.

They chose the lie.

It would make the office more repected around the world and at home.

They chose the lie.

It would be doing the right thing.

They chose the lie.

It would help their own party win seats in the House and Senate.

They chose the lie.
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Old 11-21-2014, 07:04 PM   #549
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I don't predict too many "game changers." There's only been maybe one or two "game changers" in my lifetime. This is certainly one of them.

Most of the time my stuff pans out. I miss some too. I hit WAY more than I miss. I predicted Obama would become president back in 2007 - before he entered the race or was even really known. I could go on, but I don't really care what anyone thinks about my political tea leaf reading - I call them like I see them, and when I miss, it's not as far as some would have you believe. I'd put my record up against anyone in this forum without breaking a sweat. But that would be a pointless exercise.

This is most definitely a game changer. I've never seen a political game changer like this in my life time. The closest thing that I can think of is the Iran Contra affair. At least with Iran Contra, it was a president trading weapons to terrorists in the hopes of exchanging them for American lives. In this one, the president is fighting the perception that he let Americans die for political reasons.

This is going to get UGLY - and here's why it's a game changer: if it doesn't get ugly, it's only going to get UGLIER. This is a hill that Republicans are going to be willing to die on regardless of the politics and polls. At this point, this is an issue that will easily unify the party. The only question is how Democrats will react.
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