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Old 02-11-2018, 09:51 AM  
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Would you trade Justin houston and our 2nd

To the Browns for #4. Houstons cap savings would be 20 mil.
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Old 02-25-2018, 11:34 AM   #136
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Houston is not done, the dude has zero help and a ****ing dumbass defensive coordinator who drops him back into coverage. The guy should be rushing the passer 100% of the time.
I just don't think he's ever going to be the 22 sack guy we paid for.
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Old 02-25-2018, 11:34 AM   #137
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Houston is not done, The guy should be rushing the passer 100% of the time.
I am all for giving this a try
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Old 02-25-2018, 11:36 AM   #138
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Houston is not done, the dude has zero help and a ****ing dumbass defensive coordinator who drops him back into coverage. The guy should be rushing the passer 100% of the time.
I'm afraid I've got some bad news.
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Old 02-25-2018, 11:40 AM   #139
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I think the "houston in coverage" thing is a little overblown. I just don't think he is productive on the opportunities he does get anymore.
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Old 02-25-2018, 11:49 AM   #140
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9.5 sacks is a respectable year for a pass rusher. Especially a pass rusher with no help on the otherside, and who drops in coverage more than other OLB
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I think the "houston in coverage" thing is a little overblown. I just don't think he is productive on the opportunities he does get anymore.
O rly?

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Old 02-25-2018, 12:00 PM   #142
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O rly?

I didn't say he never did. This play absolutely pissed me off yes. I don't think there aren't other problems with the scheme. I am just saying I wouldn't hate it if we moved on.

I mean think about it. The excuses made for JH being in coverage was because a lack of secondary talent. We just shipped out or best CB lol. This means JH is going to be even less used in pass rush with this logic right?
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Old 02-25-2018, 12:22 PM   #143
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I just don't think he's ever going to be the 22 sack guy we paid for.
Well since that was his best year and tied for 2cd all time for single season record which is 22.5 that should not be or have been the sole reason to sign him to that deal. Strahan only had two other seasons of 15 or more sacks. Any reasonable person knew he would not hit that mark again.
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Old 02-25-2018, 10:59 PM   #144
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I just don't think he's ever going to be the 22 sack guy we paid for.
This is a very dumb comment. How many people have 22 sack seasons, much less multiple ones. He was about as productive as Von and Mack this year....
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Old 02-25-2018, 11:02 PM   #145
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Well since that was his best year and tied for 2cd all time for single season record which is 22.5 that should not be or have been the sole reason to sign him to that deal. Strahan only had two other seasons of 15 or more sacks. Any reasonable person knew he would not hit that mark again.
Sutton probably thought he would get there again. That's why he dropped him back in coverage on the final play of the season.
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Old 02-25-2018, 11:58 PM   #146
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This is a very dumb comment. How many people have 22 sack seasons, much less multiple ones. He was about as productive as Von and Mack this year....
Well, would the Chiefs have paid him that massive contract only because of that year? because he did and they signed him to it right after I’d just have to assume so or it had much to do with it. Had he not achieved such a number do we know for sure he gets the same contract? Since they waited to sign him until he did I guess we’ll never know.

Dumb to not think it had anything to do with it. Get ****ed.
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Old 02-26-2018, 12:18 AM   #147
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I dont understand why this defensive scheme doesnt play to matchups. Everyone is always ****ing locked on "their" side of the field. Houston needs to play on whichever side of the line has a weak link. Him being on the right side was okay when Hali was still good. They need to get this guy over to the ****ing strong side once in a while, where the QB cant see him coming.
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Old 02-26-2018, 01:10 AM   #148
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9.5 sacks is a respectable year for a pass rusher. Especially a pass rusher with no help on the otherside, and who drops in coverage more than other OLB


$20 million per year good?
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Old 02-26-2018, 01:39 AM   #149
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$20 million per year good?
If you only look at sacks?

No.

If Houston was terrible in coverage (which he was doing far too much this year and by no fault of his own) and he's not, or he was terrible in run support (which he's not,) perhaps then you'd have a point.

Has he lost a step?

I'd say he has.

Is he still strong/athletic enough to toss a RT aside like a rag doll?

Yup.

He's a freak of nature. He has explosive power. He was minimized because our DC was using him to mask other weaknesses (and this I completely disagree with.)
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I dont understand why this defensive scheme doesnt play to matchups. Everyone is always ****ing locked on "their" side of the field. Houston needs to play on whichever side of the line has a weak link. Him being on the right side was okay when Hali was still good. They need to get this guy over to the ****ing strong side once in a while, where the QB cant see him coming.
Houston generally plays on the strong side and they do move him across the OL to exploit matchups.

Thank you for letting us all know you don't know what the **** you're talking about.
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