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Old 02-16-2013, 01:15 PM  
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Per this very insightful breakdown.

http://overthecap.com/estimating-the...r-dwayne-bowe/

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Comparable Players

Most likely Bowe has two players in mind when looking for a new deal- Vincent Jackson and DeSean Jackson, who both signed new contracts in 2012. I also want to look at the performance of two older players, Brandon Marshall and Andre Johnson, who both signed new contracts back in 2010. The table below compares the 3 year averages of each player prior to their extension:



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These are 3 year averages for D. Jackson and Bowe but only 2 year averages for V. Jackson since he held out all but 5 games of the 2010 season.

The numbers are adjusted for games missed to not inflate the performance of the others on the team when the player in question was injured.


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Now we can see how favorably Bowe compares to Jackson. Bowe was a more valuable player to the Chiefs than Jackson was to the Chargers and perhaps that is why the Chiefs are rumored to now want to keep him in the fold.

I think the most striking stat is the interception rate which pointed to Jackson seeing a lot of passes attempted for him getting picked off compared to Bowe. These numbers tell me that Bowe is a clear number 1 and was doing some pretty impressive things in Kansas City with almost no talent around him.
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Based on the comparative performance I am going to push and say on average Bowe is worth about 9.5% more than Jackson, which is pretty much the upper bound of his deal. That would equate to a deal worth a little below $12.2 million a year.

Now I don’t think that will happen. Based on the same analysis Vincent was about 33% more valuable than DeSean but overall his deal ended up 14.5% higher in APY. Using the same adjustment Bowe should earn a realistic deal worth 4.2% more than Jackson, equating to about $11.58 million a season.
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Old 02-16-2013, 03:28 PM   #31
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Snitching is when you roll over on your friends and rat them out to get out of getting in trouble yourself.

He didn't SNITCH on anybody. He just failed to keep the whole importing thing a big secret. He BLABBED, he didn't "snitch".
That's your description as it relates to drugs.

A snitch is an informant...which is what Bowe did in the importing thing...stupidity isn't an excuse, it's arguably worse.

Like I said though, I don't care about that shit and doubt the team does either, but I bet they are trying to add a clause that gives Bowe incentive to keep his head in the game and make adult decisions.
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Old 02-16-2013, 03:38 PM   #32
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Old 02-16-2013, 03:53 PM   #34
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That's your description as it relates to drugs.

A snitch is an informant...which is what Bowe did in the importing thing...stupidity isn't an excuse, it's arguably worse.

Like I said though, I don't care about that shit and doubt the team does either, but I bet they are trying to add a clause that gives Bowe incentive to keep his head in the game and make adult decisions.
No, that's the definition of a SNITCH.

Using the word "snitch" has a definitive connotation that Bowe absolutely does not deserve.

He didn't say what he said with any forethought of malice or intention to get anyone else in trouble.

It was a slip of the tongue and nothing more.

And by the way, NOTHING is worse than a snitch. NOTHING.
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No, that's the definition of a SNITCH.

Using the word "snitch" has a definitive connotation that Bowe absolutely does not deserve.

He didn't say what he said with any forethought of malice or intention to get anyone else in trouble.

It was a slip of the tongue and nothing more.

And by the way, NOTHING is worse than a snitch. NOTHING.
he could have kept it to himself instead, he's to blame too. doesn't mean jack if he had a girlfriend, he was fuccing those imported women too.
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he could have kept it to himself instead, he's to blame too. doesn't mean jack if he had a girlfriend, he was fuccing those imported women too.
I already said he could have kept it to himself.

That doesn't make him a goddamn snitch, nimrod.
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No, that's the definition of a SNITCH.

Using the word "snitch" has a definitive connotation that Bowe absolutely does not deserve.

He didn't say what he said with any forethought of malice or intention to get anyone else in trouble.

It was a slip of the tongue and nothing more.

And by the way, NOTHING is worse than a snitch. NOTHING.
The whole idea behind the word snitch, and the extreme negative connotation, needs to go away. Its a huge problem in schools, and one of my biggest pet peeves is the word snitch and what it means, and what it doesn't mean.
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The whole idea behind the word snitch, and the extreme negative connotation, needs to go away. Its a huge problem in schools, and one of my biggest pet peeves is the word snitch and what it means, and what it doesn't mean.
Yup. I used to tell on the bad boys at school and the teacher always rewarded me for it.
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Yup. I used to tell on the bad boys at school and the teacher always rewarded me for it.
I know ha, right? But I work with inner city kids, and try to get them to differentiate snitching and helping out someone in trouble. Its not easy to break the brainwashing that happens.
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No, that's the definition of a SNITCH.

Using the word "snitch" has a definitive connotation that Bowe absolutely does not deserve.

He didn't say what he said with any forethought of malice or intention to get anyone else in trouble.

It was a slip of the tongue and nothing more.

And by the way, NOTHING is worse than a snitch. NOTHING.
snitch /snɪtʃ/ slang
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(intransitive) to act as an informer
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The whole idea behind the word snitch, and the extreme negative connotation, needs to go away. Its a huge problem in schools, and one of my biggest pet peeves is the word snitch and what it means, and what it doesn't mean.
Whatever.

The extreme negative connotation is deserved.

Don't be a snitch and you'll never have to worry about what the word means.
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I know ha, right? But I work with inner city kids, and try to get them to differentiate snitching and helping out someone in trouble. Its not easy to break the brainwashing that happens.
You've got a problem with intent, then.

Telling the truth about someone doesn't make you a snitch.

Telling the truth about someone to get yourself OUT OF TROUBLE does.
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(intransitive) to act as an informer
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Bowe wasn't acting as an informer.

"To inform" is a premeditated act.

He blurted it out, accidentally.

You're wrong. Move on.
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Whatever.

The extreme negative connotation is deserved.

Don't be a snitch and you'll never have to worry about what the word means.
I never had to worry anyway.

The bad boys weren't strong enough to shove my head in the toilet for a swirly.
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I never had to worry anyway.

The bad boys weren't strong enough to shove my head in the toilet for a swirly.
Well to be fair, your giant egg won't fit in the US standard toilet.
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