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Old 04-22-2011, 02:18 PM  
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Istanbul, Greece, and Egypt

A buddy and I are going to backpack across Istanbul, Greece, and Egypt for two weeks at the end of May/early June. In Greece, we have a free villa to stay at in Athens so we were thinking of taking day trips to Delphi and Olympia, then do an entire day/night at Athens then go to some Greek islands, maybe Mykonos and Santorini before heading to Alexandria, Luxor, then Cairo/Giza.

Has anyone been to those three countries and have any recommendations and tips for a fellow international traveler?
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Old 04-23-2011, 09:44 AM   #31
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Old 04-23-2011, 09:46 AM   #32
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Old 04-23-2011, 12:03 PM   #34
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A buddy and I are going to backpack across Istanbul, Greece, and Egypt for two weeks at the end of May/early June. In Greece, we have a free villa to stay at in Athens so we were thinking of taking day trips to Delphi and Olympia, then do an entire day/night at Athens then go to some Greek islands, maybe Mykonos and Santorini before heading to Alexandria, Luxor, then Cairo/Giza.

Has anyone been to those three countries and have any recommendations and tips for a fellow international traveler?
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Old 04-23-2011, 12:07 PM   #35
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Old 04-23-2011, 12:16 PM   #36
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Old 04-23-2011, 12:20 PM   #37
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Old 04-23-2011, 12:29 PM   #38
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That's a lot for two weeks... I'd sit down with your buddy and start prioritizing everything you want to do, and then be prepared to cut stuff. Just counting every city you listed, you're almost at two weeks and that doesn't count travel time. That's just too much for me, but some people can handle the whirlwind travel.

Have fun though. Make sure you report back on how it all goes. I've always wanted to see Egypt - that should be incredible.
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Old 04-23-2011, 01:52 PM   #39
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I've been to Geece several times. Fantastic beaches and historical sites, but not much else.

I've spent a lot of times in Egypt. Rainmans list is a good one.

I just traveled through Istanbul. Rode the "Magic Bus" from Istanbul to Amsterdam. You talk about an extreme experienmce. Lucky I survived that trip. Not recommended. In Istanbul go by the water in the old part of the city. Historical landmarks everywhere.

Needless to say but I will in case you don't come back....you get away from the tourist places you are taking your life into your own hands. lots of people with no money think every American is loaded and want to take it from you.

Watch the hostels, they are a dangerous place sometimes.
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Old 04-23-2011, 02:13 PM   #40
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Rain Man, thanks for the post! I've been debating on whether or not to see Abu Simbel, so your narrative helps with me a bit more. I read that food poisoning is prevalent in Egypt and that they recommend eating a fat diet of mostly fried foods to ensure you don't get accidentally poisoned. What was your culinary experience?
We debated Abu Simbel pretty hard because it takes a full day and a plane ride to get to, but I'm really glad we did it. It's impressive.

On the food stuff, I was surprised how developed the infrastructure was in the tourist areas. There were safe-looking restaurants all over the place, and we didn't have any problems at all. It was almost more like Europe than a developing country. I somewhat relaxed my general rule in the third world, which is that I generally eat only in nice hotels or western restaurants, and only buy sealed snacks. There were enough nice restaurants that we occasionally just went to a local, but nice, place. (I'm not into that whole "live like the locals" thing.)

That was the other thing the guides were good for. They took us to nice restaurants, and even the nice restaurants were very reasonably priced.
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Old 04-23-2011, 03:15 PM   #41
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I'd bypass turkey and since people have written the egypt leg I'll go with athens and the islands. With 2 weeks you should start in athens, take the hellenic seaways high speed cat (blue star ferry is too slow, though cheaper but since you're on a time crisis have to take the high speed cats), end in crete after visiting some islands and fly to egypt. There just isn't enough time to bother with turkey. In regards to mykonos, I actually liked the side island of delos (day half trip from mykonos) for visiting some old stones. In regards to santorini, I'd stay on the beach and bus to fira(white buildings on the cliff, you know the great photog pics). While cool to see and visit, I prefer staying by the beach and relaxing. Rent a 4 wheeler if you're up to it otherwise use the bus. While in Fira, stop by Lucky's Soulvakis. Just tasty and quick cheap food. Also I recommend bringing a pair of aqua socks. It's a bitch walking around in the water. Have fun and tell us your itinerary. You don't have to book hotels if you do not want to. There will be hoardes of people as you get off the ferry or high speed cat trying to sell you a room, and will bus you there. It's wild.
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I spent a few weeks in Greece (and Crete), and found Athens to be a overrated when compared to Delphi, and especially Greeces underrated second city, Thessoliniki. The walk to the ruins in Delphi is amazing, some of the best views on the planet. I found the Roman Arch of Galarius and the White Tower interesting in Thessoliniki, and never felt at all threatened or unsafe. I actually was engaged at night right there on the Mediterranean (on a boat mofer!!) in front of the White Tower.

Athens has a big New York City feel to it and the Acropolis is impressive especially to a westerner when you consider its the birthplace of democracy. I had a lingering discomfort in Athens though probably caused by the lack of a competent security presence and the anarchy signs spray painted everywhere. Athens just left me with the feeling it was on the cusp of social disorder and chaos.
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Old 04-24-2011, 11:13 AM   #44
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I'd love to hear the final agenda when you get it planned. I haven't been to Greece or Turkey and would like to go at some point.
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