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Old 11-16-2009, 11:32 PM  
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Bill Maas: Cassel = Grbac
Said it today on 610. Said that Cassel is not a "general" on the field; not a leader of men. Maas said while he's tall and has a strong arm (looks the part), he doesn't have the personality or mental makeup to be a leader or a great qb. His only hope is to be surrounded by talent and not get in the way of that talent. Grbac.
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Old 11-17-2009, 01:55 AM   #31
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and your opinion changes so much it's like you make a choice by targeting a bucket with certain names of players or views to jockey then you proceed to aim at said bucket to piss in for distance and the bucket you hit with the player or opinion in mind gets the go ahead to be the ultimate truth passed down from God then Larry Johnson then to you to save us all as gospel.
Deflect, deflect, deflect.

Matt Cassel is in no way a hothead.

Dumbest ****ing thing you've ever said.
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Old 11-17-2009, 02:21 AM   #32
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On July 6, 2007, Maas was arrested for drug and weapons possession after a traffic stop in East Peoria, Illinois. He was released from jail two days later.[1]

On September 5, 2007, Maas was questioned and released following an incident at Kansas City International Airport in which authorities reportedly found a loaded 9mm Glock in a bag brought by the former football player to the airport before attempting to board a plane. The gun was confiscated at a screening station and Maas was taken to the airport police station for questioning, at which point he claimed to have picked up the wrong bag before coming to the airport. The incident is still under investigation. [2]
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Old 11-17-2009, 02:24 AM   #33
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I watched the entire game. Stafford looked like a young rookie QB with some promise. His receiver did not help him at all. The drops are horrendous on that team. He will be good one day. I prefered him over Sanchez in the draft, we'll see how they turn up.
I think Stafford will develop in to a bonafide NFL "Golden Arm" in the vein of Elway and Montana, while I see Sanchez as being a new breed of "Warrior QB".
Both will have the ability to put the team on their backs and carry them, albeit in different fashions.

I've taken an honest, introspective look at Cassel in terms of, "Am I being disingenuous with him"? "Am I not giving this guy a chance"? "Is everything he does going to be a FAIL in my eyes"?
I honestly do not feel, think, or believe that I am wrong in my view of this guy. And it's not like I relish the thought of getting another two to three years behind the curve in terms of bringing another QB in, but this team has been so devoid of a true leader in that capacity for so long, that the thought of half-assing it again under new management is MUCH more repulsive.
This franchise NEEDS the "It" guy at that position. Some kid who packs the talent, walks the swagger, carry's the big stick, and pops the competition in the ****ing mouth with it even as a rookie, though not as often as he will as he matures under the franchise.

Whoever that kid may be, we need him.
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Old 11-17-2009, 02:24 AM   #34
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On July 6, 2007, Maas was arrested for drug and weapons possession after a traffic stop in East Peoria, Illinois. He was released from jail two days later.[1]

On September 5, 2007, Maas was questioned and released following an incident at Kansas City International Airport in which authorities reportedly found a loaded 9mm Glock in a bag brought by the former football player to the airport before attempting to board a plane. The gun was confiscated at a screening station and Maas was taken to the airport police station for questioning, at which point he claimed to have picked up the wrong bag before coming to the airport. The incident is still under investigation. [2]
And your point is?
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Old 11-17-2009, 05:40 AM   #35
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Deflect, deflect, deflect.

Matt Cassel is in no way a hothead.

Dumbest ****ing thing you've ever said.

Did you see him push Albert when he was sacked during the Cowboys game, or yell at the sidelines when a play didn't go his way.
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Old 11-17-2009, 05:57 AM   #36
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Totally wrong comparison. Grbac never worried about team building.

Cassel is well liked. He works at the game. Just look at when Savage put the ball on the ground. That is what a leader/teamate does.

Cassel has the second most drops in the NFL. If there were only half as many drops, his completion percentage would be over 60%.

There have been times that I am dissapointed with Cassel. But, it is his third offense in less than a year. I am going to give him at least another year.
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Old 11-17-2009, 05:58 AM   #37
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Did you see him push Albert when he was sacked during the Cowboys game, or yell at the sidelines when a play didn't go his way.
Yeah, because Peyton Manning sucks balls.... or don't you ever see him yell?
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:04 AM   #38
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Yeah, because Peyton Manning sucks balls.... or don't you ever see him yell?
Only a few of the greats have tempers on the field, because if one loses their cool that temper will lose the game.

Plus, Cassel is not Peyton Manning and hasn't earned that respect to yell and berate his teammates.
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Old 11-17-2009, 06:28 AM   #39
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Cassel's probably a step above Grbac. But Cassel has made a ton of stupid plays this season.

Let's say Maas is right. I thought the entire reason Pioli brought in Cassel was because he ate toughness for breakfast and shat out 20 pounds of leadership every day before going to work. That he was going to be a Tom Brady-type QB with a power, accurate arm and a gritty toughness and smarts to make big plays when necessary.

HUGE ****ing botch on Pioli's part. He's been around that player for 3 years and he STILL midjudges him.
You have to wonder if Haley's approach just isn't getting the most out of Cassel. In Arizona, his QB probably had a longer rope because he was a former MVP and Super Bowl winner, having one of the finest seasons of his career. He's got pedigree. Maybe Haley's been telling Cassel the same thing that many on the Planet have been saying: 'You're nothing without Belichick, you were a product of the system, and you lack the strong, defined jaw-line of Tom Brady to make the ladies of KC go weak at the knees'.

Now I understand there are coaches who are shouters, and they've got great results, but would it seem to me to be counterintuitive to have your QB more scared of the coach flipping shit for calling a time out (When Haley's game-management has been suspect at BEST) than he is of getting pummeled by the defence (And with the line Cassel's had, it's happening sooner rather than later on almost every snap).

Shouting doesn't equal coaching. Haley's gonna have to realize that before he becomes a far less successful Tom Coughlin. Maybe his legacy willl be 'he taught Jamaal Charles how to hold the football' but that would actually require more than just overt threats on Charles' life and excessive f-bombs.
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Are Maas and Whitlock friends?
They eat together it looks like
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I think Stafford will develop in to a bonafide NFL "Golden Arm" in the vein of Elway and Montana, while I see Sanchez as being a new breed of "Warrior QB".
Both will have the ability to put the team on their backs and carry them, albeit in different fashions.

I've taken an honest, introspective look at Cassel in terms of, "Am I being disingenuous with him"? "Am I not giving this guy a chance"? "Is everything he does going to be a FAIL in my eyes"?
I honestly do not feel, think, or believe that I am wrong in my view of this guy. And it's not like I relish the thought of getting another two to three years behind the curve in terms of bringing another QB in, but this team has been so devoid of a true leader in that capacity for so long, that the thought of half-assing it again under new management is MUCH more repulsive.
This franchise NEEDS the "It" guy at that position. Some kid who packs the talent, walks the swagger, carry's the big stick, and pops the competition in the ****ing mouth with it even as a rookie, though not as often as he will as he matures under the franchise.

Whoever that kid may be, we need him.
You have not given an honest look. I have never heard you say one thing that has been even remotely positive about the kid. Not a single time. That's why I don't take any stock in tribal warfare's or your opinion when it comes to Cassel. Everybody's going to pick a side, but credibility comes from being realistic to know that nobody is full of fail and nobody is full of perfection.
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Everybody's going to pick a side, but credibility comes from being realistic to know that nobody is full of fail and nobody is full of perfection.
Cassel is an average to above game manager, and nothing more the guy won't kill your offense, but he doesn't have what it takes to be an upper echelon QB.
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Said it today on 610. Said that Cassel is not a "general" on the field; not a leader of men. Maas said while he's tall and has a strong arm (looks the part), he doesn't have the personality or mental makeup to be a leader or a great qb. His only hope is to be surrounded by talent and not get in the way of that talent. Grbac.

Well there you have it. The word of Bill Maas is like gold.
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Cassel is an average to above game manager, and nothing more the guy won't kill your offense, but he doesn't have what it takes to be an upper echelon QB.
There, that's better. I don't disagree with that as of now.
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