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Old 03-01-2013, 04:07 PM  
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Excerpts from Marty Schottenheimer's book

This is one of the best football books you'll read. It's truly fascinating.

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1. Dick Haley (Todd's dad) was a big HS football star at a school not far from Marty's. Haley drove a red convertible and Marty used to see it all the time and get extremely jealous. Marty's first purchase when the Bills drafted him was a red convertible Buick Riviera.

2. Almost everyone in the NFL was rooting for Brian Schottenheimer's Jets to beat AJ Smith's Chargers in the 2009 playoffs, because people hated AJ Smith for firing Marty after going 14-2. Marty had to watch the game from a hotel bar.

3. Marty wanted to be a dentist but failed organic chemistry.

4. Marty was good friends with Joe Namath, to the extent that they went on fishing trips together. Namath once juked Marty in the open field during a Jets-Bills game, and afterwards gave him crap about it.

5. Marty failed in real-estate endeavors and that was why he got into coaching. He got stiffed on a bunch of checks in the WFL, then submitted a scouting report on WFL players to Giants head coach Bill Arnsparger, and eventually got a job with the Giants coaching linebackers because of it.

6. Marty was Cleveland's defensive coordinator when the HC was fired. They offered Marty the interm HC job. He refused and asked for a two-year contract as the full-fledged HC because he knew players didn't respect interim head coaches. Smart move.

7. Art Modell, in all his wisdom, tried to force Marty to make changes to his coaching staff, and that was why he left Cleveland.

8. "One play a time" was coined because Namath juked Marty. After that play, Marty couldn't focus and gave up a TD because of it. After that he resolved to focus only on one play at a time.

9. Carl and Marty had their first interview together getting lost driving around Kansas City. They almost ran out of gas.

10. Lamar Hunt was the selling point for Marty to come to KC. He would do random things like bring a piece of Key Lime Pie to his hotel room late at night during league meetings.

11. A Marty saying you probably haven't heard: "Men, just hang in there like an old sack of balls."
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Old 03-16-2013, 01:14 AM   #76
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Marty would not have done well in the aughts?

He did OK in SD.
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Old 03-16-2013, 01:17 AM   #77
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Marty would not have done well in the aughts?

He did OK in SD.
He's like the Peyton Manning of coaches. Rapes in the regular season, but has a rough time in the playoffs. If Marty was our coach when we played Peyton in the playoffs in 2003, both teams would have lost due to a skud missile hitting the stadium or something.
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Old 03-16-2013, 01:18 AM   #78
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He's like the Peyton Manning of coaches. Rapes in the regular season, but has a rough time in the playoffs. If Marty was our coach when we played Peyton in the playoffs in 2003, both teams would have lost due to a skud missile hitting the stadium or something.
That was 2004: Herm versus Marty.

They went to overtime in the playoffs because both teams were playing not to lose.
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Old 03-16-2013, 01:20 AM   #79
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That was 2004: Herm versus Marty.

They went to overtime in the playoffs because both teams were playing not to lose.
Lol. "You play to not lose the game!"
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Old 03-16-2013, 01:33 AM   #80
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In retrospect he was a master marketer and uh, financial success strategist.

If he had been 10 percent better as a talent evaluator he's probably got a SB ring.

And he was a dick, but man he was our dick.
Carl Peterson knew his audience better than any GM in the NFL. He's actually a fascinating individual. I'd love to have been a fly on the wall of his negotiations with Tait's agent.
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Old 03-16-2013, 01:42 AM   #81
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Carl Peterson knew his audience better than any GM in the NFL. He's actually a fascinating individual. I'd love to have been a fly on the wall of his negotiations with Tait's agent.

I'd rather have been present in the room

Carl was probably so pissed he killed all the flies and ate them.
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Old 03-16-2013, 01:48 AM   #82
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I know he called him a foot-shuffling porter, but I don't know much else about the interaction. What got him so pissed?
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I know he called him a foot-shuffling porter, but I don't know much else about the interaction. What got him so pissed?
Tait or his agent?

I always thought that phrase was reserved for Gunther.

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...sh.html?pg=all
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Old 03-16-2013, 02:01 AM   #84
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I guess I have my history mixed up. STFD and was Tait/Tait's agent then?
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I'd rather have been present in the room

Carl was probably so pissed he killed all the flies and ate them.
In fact, I think the fart that bounced off his leather chair killed all the flies in the room instantly.
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I guess I have my history mixed up. STFD and was Tait/Tait's agent then?
There came a point during the negotiations where things became extremely heated. For whatever reason, John Tait was actually in the room while that totally incompetent dumbass, Ethan Locke, was negotiating Tait's contract.

Tait stood up, said he needed to leave the room for some fresh air and Carl blurted out "Shut the **** up and sit the **** down".

I know that a lot of people blamed Carl for Tait's absence in training camp and for signing late, but the truth of the matter is that Locke was a dildo who was in way over his head and had no business as an NFL agent.
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There came a point during the negotiations where things became extremely heated. For whatever reason, John Tait was actually in the room while that totally incompetent dumbass, Ethan Locke, was negotiating Tait's contract.

Tait stood up, said he needed to leave the room for some fresh air and Carl blurted out "Shut the **** up and sit the **** down".

I know that a lot of people blamed Carl for Tait's absence in training camp and for signing late, but the truth of the matter is that Locke was a dildo who was in way over his head and had no business as an NFL agent.
I was pretty sure that was the story, but the specifics just make me . Carl was like a cartoon character at times.
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People hate but Marty was a great Coach.

He was not a great talent evaluator.
He was not an innovator - he did not dream up some new offensive or defensive scheme.
Marty had the ability to elevate the play of all those that played for him.
Marty was a motivator.

On a scale of 1 to 10 I'd give him an 8+.

He was too friendly. He was too willing to let a GM (Cleveland and Here) dictate his team.

It appeared that he finally grew some testes the 2nd half of that year he spent in Washington.

In SD he was a completely different HC.

To this day he's the only HC we've had that I feel any sympathy at all for...
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