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Old 01-11-2017, 07:11 PM  
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Yahoo!: Mexico says to seek broad negotiating strategy with Trump

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MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - Mexico's government said on Wednesday it would throw its relationship with the United States wide open when it sits down for talks with the incoming U.S. administration, putting security, migration and trade on the table in search of a deal.

U.S. President-elect Donald Trump has threatened to tear up a trade agreement that underpins Mexico's economic model if he cannot renegotiate its terms in his favor, battering the peso currency and fuelling uncertainty over foreign investment.

However, President Enrique Pena Nieto said Mexico would take a broad approach to the talks, seeking a deal that would benefit both Mexico and its neighbor as his government attempted to head off the risk of an economic shock from the Trump presidency.

"All the issues that define our bilateral relationship are on the table, including security, migration and trade," Pena Nieto said in a speech to a group of diplomats.

Reuters reported last month that Mexico's government aimed to use security and migration to gain leverage over the United States in its talks with Trump, and could offer to reinforce its borders to get a better deal on trade...
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/mexico-say...224622638.html

Seems a little less confrontational than the comments from Mexico's former president.
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Old 01-11-2017, 07:29 PM   #2
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I heard the former Mexican foreign minister interviewed on NPR the other day. He made a few points which made sense to me.

He pointed out that having a neighbor to the South with relative stability has quite a bit of value to our country. To that end, a stable and improving Mexican economy is in our interests as well as theirs. Free trade obviously helps in that regard. [A wise man once said, you don't make your country rich by errecting trade barriers. You make your country poor that way.] Additionally, lack of work is what sends their people north. A better Mexican economy means less illegal immigrants.

He also pointed out that they have been waging a violent drug war for the past decade or so, largely at our insistance. If relations break down between our countries, that is something they would obviously be less willing to do.

Also, he mentioned that Mexican immigrants are an important part of our economy. Many of the jobs they do are jobs that Americans are just unwilling to do. Agriculture, for example.

Seems to me serious discussions are in everyone's interests.
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Old 01-11-2017, 07:35 PM   #3
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Also, he mentioned that Mexican immigrants are an important part of our economy. Many of the jobs they do are jobs that Americans are just unwilling to do. Agriculture, for example.

Seems to me serious discussions are in everyone's interests.
Oh stop. Unwilling to do at the depressed wages that illegals get? Sure.
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I heard the former Mexican foreign minister interviewed on NPR the other day. He made a few points which made sense to me.

He pointed out that having a neighbor to the South with relative stability has quite a bit of value to our country. To that end, a stable and improving Mexican economy is in our interests as well as theirs. Free trade obviously helps in that regard. [A wise man once said, you don't make your country rich by errecting trade barriers. You make your country poor that way.] Additionally, lack of work is what sends their people north. A better Mexican economy means less illegal immigrants.

He also pointed out that they have been waging a violent drug war for the past decade or so, largely at our insistance. If relations break down between our countries, that is something they would obviously be less willing to do.

Also, he mentioned that Mexican immigrants are an important part of our economy. Many of the jobs they do are jobs that Americans are just unwilling to do. Agriculture, for example.

Seems to me serious discussions are in everyone's interests.
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Old 01-11-2017, 07:42 PM   #5
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Oh stop. Unwilling to do at the depressed wages that illegals get? Sure.
In 2009 at the depths of the Great Recession, unwilling to do for $10.00 an hour, $2.00 over minimum wage.

Now? I'm not sure paying someone $20.00 an hour to pick fruit is going to be a viable business plan.
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Old 01-11-2017, 07:44 PM   #6
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did any of you trumpers/white russians even think that russia wont stream forward without delay with warships thru the panama canal to buy mexicos oil?


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In 2009 at the depths of the Great Recession, unwilling to do for $10.00 an hour, $2.00 over minimum wage.

Now? I'm not sure paying someone $20.00 an hour to pick fruit is going to be a viable business plan.
For how long has the agriculture industry been using illegal labor?
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It's always the little guy that trys to convince people that fighting never solved anything when he's about to take an ass beating.
Except, it's not quite that simple, is it. If Mexico takes an ass beating, we will be negatively affected, for the very real reasons he outlined.
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For how long has the agriculture industry been using illegal labor?
I couldn't say.
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Except, it's not quite that simple, is it. If Mexico takes an ass beating, we will be negatively affected, for the very real reasons he outlined.
Mexico hates Trump. They'd crush him if they could. But they now fear him. Of course it's in our best interest to establish and maintain good relations. On our terms. We'll get along just fine. Just don't misunderstand the reasons behind it.
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did any of you trumpers/white russians even think that russia wont stream forward without delay with warships thru the panama canal to buy mexicos oil?


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It's really weird how Mexico suddenly realizes they're our bitch and will do what we want
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Mexico hates Trump. They'd crush him if they could. But they now fear him. Of course it's in our best interest to establish and maintain good relations. On our terms. We'll get along just fine. Just don't misunderstand the reasons behind it.
Ok. Do you agree with the points the ex-foreign minister made? To take an extreme example, civil war in Mexico, or Mexico as a failed state, would not be a situation we would want to see, for self-interested reasons. Converserly, a stable Mexico with a good economy is something we do want to see, again, for self-interested reasons.

We like having a stable neighbor with a stable government and economy to the North, for example, right?

Mexico's war on its cartels isn't done because Mexico benefits from it, would you agree? It's done to cut the flow of drugs into our country. Right? Do you think they would be as inclined to wage that war if relations break down, free trade stops?
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Much of Mexico is a third world shithole. They will basically agree to what they are presented.
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Ok. Do you agree with the points the ex-foreign minister made? To take an extreme example, civil war in Mexico, or Mexico as a failed state, would not be a situation we would want to see, for self-interested reasons. Converserly, a stable Mexico with a good economy is something we do want to see, again, for self-interested reasons.

We like having a stable neighbor with a stable government and economy to the North, for example, right?

Mexico's war on its cartels isn't done because Mexico benefits from it, would you agree? It's done to cut the flow of drugs into our country. Right? Do you think they would be as inclined to wage that war if relations break down, free trade stops?
None of those bad things has to happen to Mexico. So long as they conform to our terms. Peace through power is a good thing.
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