The old Grbac returns true to form - Page 5

Packfan · 12-05-2000, 07:52 AM

1 minute left, no timeouts and the first play Grbac runs is a five yard QB keeper!

The last play with six seconds is a five yard pass when the goal line is 11 yards away!

Stupidity is the main reason why Elvis will never take any team to a Super Bowl. I have seen to many decisions like these from Elvis. If he hasnt learned by now, he will never learn.

Elvis better pray that Carl is still around come February because no GM in their right mind would pay this loser a 10 million dollar roster bonus.

47mack · 12-05-2000, 03:52 PM

It is obvious that Packfan is not an Elvis fan. WHO CARES. If you don't like his opinion, don't read his posts/threads.

I myself, agree with both sides. I think Elvis played a good, damn near great game. The only problem is that he ended it that way. It is almost like he sets himself up for disappointment. I think he still lacks confidence. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT ENDING.

Elvis is far from the only one to blame, but it was his hand that released the pass.....that is unacceptable. For the receiver to catch the ball.......that is unacceptable. For Raye to still be making the calls......that is unacceptable.

For Grbac lovers to say "since he played a great game, it is okay that he made that pass"....BULL$HIT. There was no second chance left. For Packfan to say that Grbac is horrible.......BULL$HIT.

I personally am an Alexander fan. He drops his share of passes, but he has been one hell of an asset this year. If I recall correctly, there were many people on this board that wanted him gone at the begining of this year.

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Packfan · 12-05-2000, 03:53 PM

KCRED,

I dont know what you are talking about. I rarely bring up the Packers. I only talk about them when someone else brings them up. You state "EVERY" comment I make is centered around the Packers. Do you have trouble reading and comprehending? Check out my post prior to the one you made. Nothing about the packers. Only about Bozo the quarterback (Grbac). Look, the truth hurts, I can tell. You dont like what I say, then dont read it. Pretty simple. Just like it pretty simple to throw the ball in the endzone on third and goal from the 11 with no timeouts left.

you shouldnt take these chiefs loses so personal. Its only a game!

Mosbonian · 12-05-2000, 04:37 PM

Ken:

I think we both agree it was a mistake by Grbac to make that last pass, and I am not sure why he decided to run on first down either.

But, unlike you, I am not going to trash the QB, when almost everything about that game smelled like a week old piece of fried chicken. You keep tap dancing around the fact that there was plenty of blame to go around,(you kind of acknowledged it in one of your posts to me)starting with Gunther doing his impersonation of Harpo Marx. Then to watch as Gunther chewed on Mike Stock for the ST play last night, all I could think of what that he got what he deserved by keeping Stock "out of loyalty".

con't

Packfan · 12-05-2000, 04:37 PM

Titus,

Still having problems reading and comprehending. I said "Elvis has never led a team to a playoff victory". Not "this team". We all know he hasnt led this team, the Chiefs, to a playoff victory. The last time the Chiefs got one of those, Moon was with Houston, Grbac was at Michigan, Slyvester Morris was a freshmen in high school, and Joe Montana was the Chiefs QB. No **** titus!

Get your facts straight and maybe we can talk some football.

Packfan · 12-05-2000, 04:41 PM

Mark,

You are correct, blame goes all around. I happen to think that there were two pretty even teams out there last night so I am not surprised we lost. However, when you have a chance to win (yes the defense and Grbac gave us that chance), the last thing a fan expects is for the Quarterback (who is a seasoned veteran) to make decisions like Grbac made last night. UN ACCEPT ABLE! I am pissed at him. When will it end? Will his blunders end? And the Chiefs are set to pay this 5-8 blunder-prone QB and $10 million dollar signing bonus.

I hope they release him.

12-05-2000, 04:45 PM

Jesus Christ Packfan...

Guys, there's something you should know about Ken.

1) he likes to ***** about the Chiefs
2) he can't stand to have anyone agree with him

Notice that now that a majority of us are bitching about CP that he's suddenly the biggest hater on the board of...the QB?

Yep, he doesn't care about CP or EG, he just wants to stir up trouble...

Packfan,
Our only "resident" troll...

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Mosbonian · 12-05-2000, 04:45 PM

con't

Then I have to watch as Chester, Hicks, and Will Shields, (remember him, All-Pro, he of the 6 million dollar desire)all get penalties at points where it aided a scoring drive for the Pats.

I watched as several times the Pats ran that quick pass to the Wide Receiver only to watch him scamper for 10-15 more yards when Maslowski caught up to him to tackle him. I watched as the less-mobile -than-Grbac Drew Bledsoe got first downs by himself twice. Where was the "D" then? And as for that swan dive by Faulk at the goal line on 4th down, did anyone see Patton lose his jock on that fake by Henry Thomas?

Once again, if you wanna blame Elvis, fine, hand it out. But, just for once, "Show Me" a post on your part that will actually point out the rest of the "usual suspects".

mark
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Mosbonian · 12-05-2000, 04:47 PM

Ken:

I posted my last one before I saw your post #64

mark
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Mi_chief_fan · 12-05-2000, 04:51 PM

We all know what Packfool is all about. He's never in here after a win, only a loss(that's why he 's been here a lot lately).

Trying to talk football wit Packfool is like discussing ice hockey with Fidel Castro.

Packfan · 12-05-2000, 05:21 PM

Mi chief fan,

The chiefs havent had a win in five weeks! Dude, give me a break! I was here after the Rams and Broncos games. When the Chiefs dont win in five plus weeks, you can say the same thing about everyone being on "only after loses"!

Mark,

Your points are well taken. As you know, I am not a big James Hasty fan. I cant stand Chester and Dan Williams either. You know that I have held my stance on these guys for a looong time. Its just recent that others are starting to agree with me. One of the problems with some of the fans on here is that their expectations are to high. Yes, the Chiefs should have beaten San Diego last week. But should they have beaten the Pats? I dont think so. They got killed two years ago in Foxborough, could have lost last year at home when Adam hit the upright, and were riding a four game losing streak entering the game in Foxborough last night. The better team won and I am OK with that. What I am not OK with is the fact that another Grbac blunder cost us a shot at a win. Who expected Grbac to run a QB sneak during a two minute drill? Who expected him to throw short on the last play of the game? You never know what to expect from this guy when the game is on the line. Its no wonder he doesnt have any playoff victories under his belt. For one, he cant get there, and second, when he does, he ususally self distructs. <P>

Snapper · 12-05-2000, 06:04 PM

Is Elvis the one to take us to the "promised land"? I doubt it, I've seen him "brain fart" once to often in the crunch! Having said that, he is the least of our problems, our special teams SUCK! 30, 40, 50 yard returns! Our defense(?) SUCKS! What's it gonna take to keep our D Line "onsides"? Our running game SUCKSSSS!!!! Out of our "committe", how many of our RB's(?) could gain a hundred yards behind Denver's O Line? Or is our O Line as good as it's been touted???? Our coaching staff SUCKS!!! Why, why would we bring in DBennett for crucial plays???? He's on the sidelines for 58 minutes of the game, I'm sure he's good and warm when we bring him in for his 2-3 plays a game! Oh well, there's always next year to look forward to, I wonder what QB or RB we'll draft that won't payoff????<BR>

Mi_chief_fan · 12-05-2000, 06:38 PM

Ahhh, Packfool, you have such an amazing grasp on reality. I said that you had been around alot lately, and that you seem to come around only after losses.

You retort by giving the "who's buried in Gant's tomb?" response. "The chiefs haven't won in 5 weeks." NO F%#KING shit!!!

You have an uncanny grasp on the obvious.

KCTitus · 12-06-2000, 07:28 AM

Packfan: Did you not write this?

[i]Until this guy produces a playoff win, you wont convince me that he has the mental ability or the heart to take [b]this team[/b] any further.[/i]

If you deny writing this, you are probably the most idiotic person I have ever met.

I responded to this line in my post #48 by saying EG has had one chance to do the task that would [b]convince[/b] you that he's a leader. I was not talking about SF.

Stick to the discussion and I wont make you look like an idiot.

BTW, you dont discuss football. You never have.

Packfan · 12-06-2000, 07:36 AM

Titus,

If I am not talking football, what AM I talking about? Golf?? Good God! Are you lit right now? Put down the cocaine before you talk to me.

Grbac has NEVER won a playoff game with any team. Get that through your thick skull already! I feel like I am talking to Bliss right now and we all know how thick he is. Until he wins one with the Chiefs or anybody else, it wont convince me that he is a leader or has the mental capacity to play winning football.

Make sense now??

2+2=4 Titus. Its not that hard!

KCTitus · 12-06-2000, 07:39 AM

What a fucking moron you are...You just changed your statement in order to 'bash' me.

Is that talking football you idiot?

No.

You see, if you want to talk football, I will talk it with you. That's not what you're about and everyone here knows it.

Im glad that remedial math course is paying off. I knew 2+2 about 25 years ago, but thanks for sharing what you learned last night.

12-05-2000, 03:52 PM	#61
47mack Lonestar Chief Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Sugarland, Texas (Houston) Casino cash: $10004900	It is obvious that Packfan is not an Elvis fan. WHO CARES. If you don't like his opinion, don't read his posts/threads. I myself, agree with both sides. I think Elvis played a good, damn near great game. The only problem is that he ended it that way. It is almost like he sets himself up for disappointment. I think he still lacks confidence. THERE IS NO EXCUSE FOR THAT ENDING. Elvis is far from the only one to blame, but it was his hand that released the pass.....that is unacceptable. For the receiver to catch the ball.......that is unacceptable. For Raye to still be making the calls......that is unacceptable. For Grbac lovers to say "since he played a great game, it is okay that he made that pass"....BULL$HIT. There was no second chance left. For Packfan to say that Grbac is horrible.......BULL$HIT. I personally am an Alexander fan. He drops his share of passes, but he has been one hell of an asset this year. If I recall correctly, there were many people on this board that wanted him gone at the begining of this year. ------------------ TWB
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12-05-2000, 03:53 PM	#62
Packfan Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI, Door Casino cash: $10004900	KCRED, I dont know what you are talking about. I rarely bring up the Packers. I only talk about them when someone else brings them up. You state "EVERY" comment I make is centered around the Packers. Do you have trouble reading and comprehending? Check out my post prior to the one you made. Nothing about the packers. Only about Bozo the quarterback (Grbac). Look, the truth hurts, I can tell. You dont like what I say, then dont read it. Pretty simple. Just like it pretty simple to throw the ball in the endzone on third and goal from the 11 with no timeouts left. you shouldnt take these chiefs loses so personal. Its only a game!
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12-05-2000, 04:37 PM	#63
Mosbonian On Hiatus Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $2599700	Ken: I think we both agree it was a mistake by Grbac to make that last pass, and I am not sure why he decided to run on first down either. But, unlike you, I am not going to trash the QB, when almost everything about that game smelled like a week old piece of fried chicken. You keep tap dancing around the fact that there was plenty of blame to go around,(you kind of acknowledged it in one of your posts to me)starting with Gunther doing his impersonation of Harpo Marx. Then to watch as Gunther chewed on Mike Stock for the ST play last night, all I could think of what that he got what he deserved by keeping Stock "out of loyalty". con't
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12-05-2000, 04:41 PM	#65
Packfan Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI, Door Casino cash: $10004900	Mark, You are correct, blame goes all around. I happen to think that there were two pretty even teams out there last night so I am not surprised we lost. However, when you have a chance to win (yes the defense and Grbac gave us that chance), the last thing a fan expects is for the Quarterback (who is a seasoned veteran) to make decisions like Grbac made last night. UN ACCEPT ABLE! I am pissed at him. When will it end? Will his blunders end? And the Chiefs are set to pay this 5-8 blunder-prone QB and $10 million dollar signing bonus. I hope they release him.
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12-05-2000, 04:45 PM	#66
htismaqe Guest Casino cash: $	Jesus Christ Packfan... Guys, there's something you should know about Ken. 1) he likes to ***** about the Chiefs 2) he can't stand to have anyone agree with him Notice that now that a majority of us are bitching about CP that he's suddenly the biggest hater on the board of...the QB? Yep, he doesn't care about CP or EG, he just wants to stir up trouble... Packfan, Our only "resident" troll... ------------------ Parker [b]ChiefsPlanet Administrator</B>
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12-05-2000, 07:52 AM
Packfan Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI, Door Casino cash: $10004900	1 minute left, no timeouts and the first play Grbac runs is a five yard QB keeper! The last play with six seconds is a five yard pass when the goal line is 11 yards away! Stupidity is the main reason why Elvis will never take any team to a Super Bowl. I have seen to many decisions like these from Elvis. If he hasnt learned by now, he will never learn. Elvis better pray that Carl is still around come February because no GM in their right mind would pay this loser a 10 million dollar roster bonus.
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12-05-2000, 04:47 PM	#68
Mosbonian On Hiatus Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $2599700	Ken: I posted my last one before I saw your post #64 mark ***********
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12-05-2000, 04:51 PM	#69
Mi_chief_fan There was an idea..... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Murfreesboro,TN Casino cash: $9942966	We all know what Packfool is all about. He's never in here after a win, only a loss(that's why he 's been here a lot lately). Trying to talk football wit Packfool is like discussing ice hockey with Fidel Castro.
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12-05-2000, 05:21 PM	#70
Packfan Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI, Door Casino cash: $10004900	Mi chief fan, The chiefs havent had a win in five weeks! Dude, give me a break! I was here after the Rams and Broncos games. When the Chiefs dont win in five plus weeks, you can say the same thing about everyone being on "only after loses"! Mark, Your points are well taken. As you know, I am not a big James Hasty fan. I cant stand Chester and Dan Williams either. You know that I have held my stance on these guys for a looong time. Its just recent that others are starting to agree with me. One of the problems with some of the fans on here is that their expectations are to high. Yes, the Chiefs should have beaten San Diego last week. But should they have beaten the Pats? I dont think so. They got killed two years ago in Foxborough, could have lost last year at home when Adam hit the upright, and were riding a four game losing streak entering the game in Foxborough last night. The better team won and I am OK with that. What I am not OK with is the fact that another Grbac blunder cost us a shot at a win. Who expected Grbac to run a QB sneak during a two minute drill? Who expected him to throw short on the last play of the game? You never know what to expect from this guy when the game is on the line. Its no wonder he doesnt have any playoff victories under his belt. For one, he cant get there, and second, when he does, he ususally self distructs. <P>
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12-05-2000, 06:04 PM	#71
Snapper Veteran Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Oswego,Ks,USofA Casino cash: $10004900	Is Elvis the one to take us to the "promised land"? I doubt it, I've seen him "brain fart" once to often in the crunch! Having said that, he is the least of our problems, our special teams SUCK! 30, 40, 50 yard returns! Our defense(?) SUCKS! What's it gonna take to keep our D Line "onsides"? Our running game SUCKSSSS!!!! Out of our "committe", how many of our RB's(?) could gain a hundred yards behind Denver's O Line? Or is our O Line as good as it's been touted???? Our coaching staff SUCKS!!! Why, why would we bring in DBennett for crucial plays???? He's on the sidelines for 58 minutes of the game, I'm sure he's good and warm when we bring him in for his 2-3 plays a game! Oh well, there's always next year to look forward to, I wonder what QB or RB we'll draft that won't payoff????<BR>
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12-05-2000, 06:38 PM	#72
Mi_chief_fan There was an idea..... Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Murfreesboro,TN Casino cash: $9942966	Ahhh, Packfool, you have such an amazing grasp on reality. I said that you had been around alot lately, and that you seem to come around only after losses. You retort by giving the "who's buried in Gant's tomb?" response. "The chiefs haven't won in 5 weeks." NO F%#KING shit!!! You have an uncanny grasp on the obvious.
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12-06-2000, 07:28 AM	#73
KCTitus Archivist Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: The Ethernet Casino cash: $9902732	Packfan: Did you not write this? [i]Until this guy produces a playoff win, you wont convince me that he has the mental ability or the heart to take [b]this team[/b] any further.[/i] If you deny writing this, you are probably the most idiotic person I have ever met. I responded to this line in my post #48 by saying EG has had one chance to do the task that would [b]convince[/b] you that he's a leader. I was not talking about SF. Stick to the discussion and I wont make you look like an idiot. BTW, you dont discuss football. You never have.
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12-06-2000, 07:36 AM	#74
Packfan Starter Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Green Bay, WI, Door Casino cash: $10004900	Titus, If I am not talking football, what AM I talking about? Golf?? Good God! Are you lit right now? Put down the cocaine before you talk to me. Grbac has NEVER won a playoff game with any team. Get that through your thick skull already! I feel like I am talking to Bliss right now and we all know how thick he is. Until he wins one with the Chiefs or anybody else, it wont convince me that he is a leader or has the mental capacity to play winning football. Make sense now?? 2+2=4 Titus. Its not that hard!
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12-06-2000, 07:39 AM	#75
KCTitus Archivist Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: The Ethernet Casino cash: $9902732	What a fucking moron you are...You just changed your statement in order to 'bash' me. Is that talking football you idiot? No. You see, if you want to talk football, I will talk it with you. That's not what you're about and everyone here knows it. Im glad that remedial math course is paying off. I knew 2+2 about 25 years ago, but thanks for sharing what you learned last night.
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